[Trombone-l] Contra question

[Steve Gamble]

Before I put the second valve on my bass, I used a little trick that I
learned from a tenor player friend who was a guy with fairly short arms.
My right arm is long enough to reach extended 7th position for the low
c.  But it made me feel a little uneasy and tentative holding the slide
with just the tip of my middle finger.  It was just a matter tying a
little loop of string or shoelace around the hand slide brace which was
then coiled around the middle finger.  So it was possible to vigorously
fling the slide all the way out to 7+ without worrying about letting go
of it.

Steve Gamble, Librarian
Tucson Symphony Orchestra
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-----Original Message-----
From: trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu
[mailto:trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu] On Behalf Of Price Taylor
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:54 PM
To: Daniel Pliskin
Cc: bone bone
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Contra question

I like it - just make sure it's tied on well...probably a little
technique
involved.  That's recession thinking though!

Price



On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Daniel Pliskin
<daniel_pliskin at hotmail.com
> wrote:

>
>
>
> It won't be the first time I've been guilty of over-thinking, but here
> goes.
>
> What of you tied a string between the hand-slide cross-member than
> somewhere on the trombone that's stationary.  You could throw the
slide out
> to seventh position and yank it back, afterward.
>
> Flame on
>
> DanP
>
>
>
> > From: boneman88 at sbcglobal.net
> > Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 00:03:38 -0500
> > To: trombone-l at samford.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Contra question
> >
> > On May 20, 2009, at 5:13 PM, emrose79 at sonic.net wrote:
> >
> > > Listers: Has anyone of you that plays an F contra (or a G bass)
> > > used the
> > > handle? Any problems?  I can barely reach 6th position, but I just
> > > can't
> > > get used to the handle (on the contra). Fortunately, the double
valves
> > > almost eliminate the need, but...
> > >
> >
> >
> > Ed,
> >
> > In school at UNT, I played a couple semesters on the F bass sackbut
> > which had no valves and did have a handle to reach 7th position.  I
> > don't recommend using the handle if you can avoid it.  Once you
smack
> > yourself in the chops a few times coming back into first position
> > using the handle you'll see why.  It hurts like hell.
> >
> > I am learning to play the F "contra" now using a horn with two
> > valves.  If the valves are pitched correctly, you shouldn't have to
> > go past 5th position so you shouldn't need a handle.  The possible
> > exception, I guess, is if your slide is long enough to have 7
> > positions, you could play the Bartok gliss.  You'd probably need the
> > handle to reach the low B without using valves.
> >
> > I got the play the Kanstul contra out at Ferguson's two weeks ago.
> > The horn is pitched in F/C/Db/A and low Gb was reachable in an easy
> > 5th-ish position with no handle (it doesn't have a handle).
> >
> > I say loose the handle except for playing those B to F glisses.
> >
> > Eric Swanson
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