[Trombone-l] Trombone for new elementary - Now Bass Trb in C-Bb?

[thetubameister@roadrunner.com]

Doug Yeo has a different opinion on the slide length, and it sure looks short.  

http://www.yeodoug.com/articles/trombone_gallery/trombone_gallery.html

Do you have a different model?  It'd be nice to nab one with a full length slide!

J.c.

---- Tom Izzo <contrabasstrombone at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> To avoid any confusion here......
> 
> The Yamaha Bb/C Tenor, like other brands' "Preacher Trombones" as they are called, the slide part is the same length as on any Bb Tenor. The shortening is achieved through the Gooseneck.
> If you added a Quart Valve (as an F is to a Bb instrument), with the "C" engaged, you'd have, in effect, a C/G Tenor, w/o the valve engaged, a Bb/F instrument. Though truth be told, I've never seen a Bb/C Tenor with the added Quart valve, just a "straight" Bb/C Tenor.
> 
> Just so you know (and Adrian doesn't get too confused) :-) [sorry, A]
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 3/4/09, Ray Horton <rayhorton at insightbb.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Ray Horton <rayhorton at insightbb.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Trombone for new elementary - Now Bass Trb in C-Bb?
> > To: "Adrian Drover" <slide.rule at adiosmusic.com>, thetubameister at roadrunner.com, trombone-l at samford.edu
> > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 12:23 PM
> > Adrian, you're making my head
> > explode.
> > 
> > 
> > So, would this be C/Bb/F but defaults to Bb? 
> > Crazy!  
> > 
> > 
> > Right off the bat, I'm guessing it might sound bright, but,
> > who knows?
> > 
> > 
> > Hang on - the shorter slide wouldn't be long enough for a
> > low Db with 
> > the F valve.   We need that note!
> > 
> > 
> > If the bell section were shortened, could the horn be made
> > in C with a 
> > slide with 6 or 7 full Bb positions? Probably hard to do,
> > with two 
> > independent valves on it.
> > 
> > 
> > Either that or it needs a third valve! 
> > 
> > 
> > Oh, my head!
> > 
> > 
> > RBH
> > 
> > 
> >  >>From: thetubameister at roadrunner.com
> > 
> > >>Yamaha makes a brilliant instrument in Bb with an
> > ascending valve to C.
> > 
> > >>Sure, low E is gone, and perhaps F is
> > unreachable,  but C and B _are_, and
> > 
> > > that's what it's built to do.  Seams like a great
> > (if expensive) idea
> > Adrian Drover wrote:
> > > I've been wondering why a bass 'bone version of this
> > instrument has not been
> > > made.   Add the F tubing and it would
> > be fully chromatic down to pedal D (I
> > > think) which is more than enough for most purposes,
> > the advantage being that
> > > low C and Bnat can be played as pedals, so less
> > stuffy, and the instrument
> > > would be a little less heavy to hold.  Of course,
> > there is the danger you
> > > might forget and go off the end of the shorter slide.
> > >
> > > A.
> > >   
> > 
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