[Trombone-l] Trombone for new elementary - Now Bass Trb in C-Bb?

[Tom Izzo]

Hi all,


To avoid any confusion here......

The Yamaha Bb/C Tenor, like other brands' "Preacher Trombones" as they are called, the slide part is the same length as on any Bb Tenor. The shortening is achieved through the Gooseneck.
If you added a Quart Valve (as an F is to a Bb instrument), with the "C" engaged, you'd have, in effect, a C/G Tenor, w/o the valve engaged, a Bb/F instrument. Though truth be told, I've never seen a Bb/C Tenor with the added Quart valve, just a "straight" Bb/C Tenor.

Just so you know (and Adrian doesn't get too confused) :-) [sorry, A]

Tom


--- On Wed, 3/4/09, Ray Horton <rayhorton at insightbb.com> wrote:

> From: Ray Horton <rayhorton at insightbb.com>
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Trombone for new elementary - Now Bass Trb in C-Bb?
> To: "Adrian Drover" <slide.rule at adiosmusic.com>, thetubameister at roadrunner.com, trombone-l at samford.edu
> Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 12:23 PM
> Adrian, you're making my head
> explode.
> 
> 
> So, would this be C/Bb/F but defaults to Bb? 
> Crazy!  
> 
> 
> Right off the bat, I'm guessing it might sound bright, but,
> who knows?
> 
> 
> Hang on - the shorter slide wouldn't be long enough for a
> low Db with 
> the F valve.   We need that note!
> 
> 
> If the bell section were shortened, could the horn be made
> in C with a 
> slide with 6 or 7 full Bb positions? Probably hard to do,
> with two 
> independent valves on it.
> 
> 
> Either that or it needs a third valve! 
> 
> 
> Oh, my head!
> 
> 
> RBH
> 
> 
>  >>From: thetubameister at roadrunner.com
> 
> >>Yamaha makes a brilliant instrument in Bb with an
> ascending valve to C.
> 
> >>Sure, low E is gone, and perhaps F is
> unreachable,  but C and B _are_, and
> 
> > that's what it's built to do.  Seams like a great
> (if expensive) idea
> Adrian Drover wrote:
> > I've been wondering why a bass 'bone version of this
> instrument has not been
> > made.   Add the F tubing and it would
> be fully chromatic down to pedal D (I
> > think) which is more than enough for most purposes,
> the advantage being that
> > low C and Bnat can be played as pedals, so less
> stuffy, and the instrument
> > would be a little less heavy to hold.  Of course,
> there is the danger you
> > might forget and go off the end of the shorter slide.
> >
> > A.
> >   
> 
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