[Trombone-l] Trombone-l Digest, Vol 53, Issue 16

Thu Jun 18 13:00:08 CDT 2009

Hello David:  

Regarding Ray Robinson mutes:  I have one that says Ray Robinson Mel-O-Wah mute on it.  It is made of fiber and wood, is black and white, and has cork all the way around where it meets the bell.  It is comprised of 2 interlocking cones, and resembles the sound of a solo-tone mute, with a little less edginess.

David Loucky
Professor of Trombone and Euphonium
School of Music
Middle Tennessee State University

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>   1. mute (David Chamberlain)
>   2. Re: mute (sabutin)
>   3. Re: mute (Graham Middleton)
>   4. New Program At TRCC (Jim Hale)
>   5. Re: Neat series on YouTube (Stan Brager)
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>Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:10:45 -0400
>From: davidctrombone at webtv.net (David Chamberlain)  
>Subject: [Trombone-l] mute  
>To: trombone-l at samford.edu
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>Do any of you listers know about the 
>"Ray Robinson mute" called for in the Tomasi "Etre ou ne pas etre"????
>I found some mutes with the Ray Robinson label, but they are just rather
>stuffy fibre straight mutes.  I doubt this is what Tomasi had in mind.
>Any ideas?
>Thanks!
>David Chamberlain
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>Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:29:31 -0400
>From: sabutin <sabutin at mindspring.com>  
>Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] mute  
>To: davidctrombone at webtv.net (David Chamberlain)
>Cc: trombone-l at samford.edu
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>>Do any of you listers know about the
>>"Ray Robinson mute" called for in the Tomasi "Etre ou ne pas etre"????
>>I found some mutes with the Ray Robinson label, but they are just rather
>>stuffy fibre straight mutes.  I doubt this is what Tomasi had in mind.
>>Any ideas?
>>Thanks!
>>David Chamberlain
>
>
>A light and very good-playing cup mute, more than likely. Black and 
>white. My favorite cup mute for jazz work. Less "mutey" than the 
>Stonelined versions. You've seen myeuse it in  Dean's band. I broke 
>the cup part out so that it's convertible and I use it as my 
>"in-the-gig-bag", all in one mute.
>
>Not made for many years and hard to find. A regular Stonelined...not 
>the Mica Mute...comes closest.
>
>Sam
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>Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:39:55 -0400
>From: Graham Middleton <gmiddleton at gmail.com>  
>Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] mute  
>To: sabutin <sabutin at mindspring.com>
>Cc: trombone-l at samford.edu, David Chamberlain <davidctrombone at webtv.net>
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>That being said, David is probably playing this with large bore
>tenors.  Any good cup mute (Joral, Denis Wick, Trumco, etc) should be
>fine.  Even if you could fine a Robinson Cup Mute it would be a poor
>fit and sound.
>
>Graham
>
>On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:29 PM, sabutin<sabutin at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>Do any of you listers know about the
>>>"Ray Robinson mute" called for in the Tomasi "Etre ou ne pas etre"????
>>>I found some mutes with the Ray Robinson label, but they are just rather
>>>stuffy fibre straight mutes.  I doubt this is what Tomasi had in mind.
>>>Any ideas?
>>>Thanks!
>>>David Chamberlain
>>
>>
>> A light and very good-playing cup mute, more than likely. Black and
>> white. My favorite cup mute for jazz work. Less "mutey" than the
>> Stonelined versions. You've seen myeuse it in  Dean's band. I broke
>> the cup part out so that it's convertible and I use it as my
>> "in-the-gig-bag", all in one mute.
>>
>> Not made for many years and hard to find. A regular Stonelined...not
>> the Mica Mute...comes closest.
>>
>> Sam
>>
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>Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:03:28 -0500
>From: "Jim Hale" <jim-ml at halerecordings.com>  
>Subject: [Trombone-l] New Program At TRCC  
>To: "ML - Trombone-L" <trombone-l at samford.edu>
>
>Three Rivers Community College, where I started as a 'Community Band Member'
>four years ago and have now been attending for the last two years to
>(re)persue my Music Education degree, now makes it possible to complete a
>Bachelor's Degree in Music Education without having to transfer!
>
>I just wanted to share with everyone how proud I am of being a part of the
>new AAT program at TRCC and am really happy and appreciate all the hard work
>that Mr and Mrs White accomplished for us to be able to do this.
>
>I have the newspaper article available in my gallery if anyone is
>interested. :)
>
>http://gallery.halerecordings.com/main.php?g2_itemId=830
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>Jim Hale
>Hale Recordings
>573-727-6511
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>Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:20:20 -0700
>From: "Stan Brager" <sbrager at verizon.net>  
>Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Neat series on YouTube  
>To: "'Ken Barnes'" <leveller1 at suddenlink.net>, "'Trombone-L'" <trombone-l at samford.edu>
>
>Ken;
>
>Thanks for pointing out these videos. Wonderful seeing all these great
>players, the explanation of jazz is one of the best I've heard. I agree with
>you regarding Jimmy Cleveland who never got the public recognition he
>deserved. The first 2 videos have Jimmy in the band but feature Benny Morton
>who played with Fletcher Henderson and, later, with Count Basie. Jimmy
>Cleveland was the soloist on "Posterity".
>
>Stan
>Stan Brager
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ken Barnes [mailto:leveller1 at suddenlink.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:57 PM
>> To: Trombone-L
>> Subject: [Trombone-l] Neat series on youTube
>> 
>> 
>> featuring, at times, Jimmy Cleveland, one of the best and, IMHO.
>> criminally
>> uncelebrated players of the fifties and early sixties.
>> 
>> 
>> Swing Part One
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFGJOaXQpIg&NR=1
>> 
>> Swing Part Two
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VUZMl6Td5k&feature=channel
>> 
>> 
>> Jimmy Cleveland  (T'bone) - "Posterity"
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ElJTZw20WU&feature=channel
>> 
>> 
>> Billy Taylor on inprov. . . . "Tea for Two" w/Billy Taylor, piano; Ed
>> Safranski, bass; Osie Johnson, drums; Mundell Lowe, guitar; Doc
>> Severinsen,trumpet; Jimmy Cleveland, trombone; and Tony Scott on
>> saxophone
>> and clarinet. . .
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k-uUr0BmS4&feature=channel
>> 
>> 
>> Three Blind Mice
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMPvbr_647M&feature=related
>> 
>> 
>> "Groovin' High"
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXJI9O2D7c4&NR=1
>> 
>> 
>> & more of these if you care to look.....
>> 
>> 
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