[Trombone-l] Repair Q in re Out of True Leadpipes

[Jon Brummel]

Hi Galen-

Often a leadpipe will have the biggest difference in 'feel' meaning  
amount of resistance (amound of air you put trough) and flexibility  
(rigidity of feel).

The ensuing acousical change is more  due to the players reaction to  
the above (but there are some sonic changes) - but ALL are trumped if  
the player is not relaxed/efficient.  Any tension/bad habits (which we  
all have some of) will 98% trump a leadpipe change.

$0.02

Best,
    DrJ
Dr. Jon Brummel
me at bonehead.us
www.bonehead.us
925-768-2949

On Jun 7, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Galen Zinn <grzinn at astound.net> wrote:

> Thanks Tom,
>
> Your comments make obvious sense. Okay, so now they are portable,  
> formerly
> they were built in.
>
> Apparently I have a tin ear, because I can place any one of three  
> leadpipes
> (call them "A", "B", or "C") in my Shires bass and not notice that  
> any one
> of the three are superior in any aspect of sound or response to any  
> one of
> the others. These are my observations only and very subject to any  
> number of
> non-scientific variables. I wonder if a professional like Doug Yeo  
> or David
> Taylor demonstrated the three leadpipes on my horn if I could hear any
> differences? You know there would still be uncontrolled variables  
> that would
> affect the results. Perhaps playing on an "A", or a "B" leadpipe could
> simply be psychologically superior to playing on a "C" leadpipe.  
> Couldn't
> this all be in the mind? Couldn't exchangeable leadpipes be a  
> marketing ploy
> for present day manufacturers? I wonder. I wish a manufacturer would  
> jump in
> here and explain what is expected from each leadpipe. Is anyone out  
> there?
> Steve Shires? Edwards? Conn? Whomever? Perhaps one is for lyrical  
> solos and
> another is for Wagnerian Blastissimo? I'm not "in tune" with that  
> stage of
> the game.
>
> GRiZ
>
>
> On 6/7/09 10:45 AM, "Tom Izzo" <contrabasstrombone at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Galen,
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Galen Zinn <grzinn at astound.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Galen Zinn <grzinn at astound.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Repair Q in re Out of True Leadpipes
>>> To: trombone-l at samford.edu
>>> Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 12:14 PM
>>
>>> Having grown up in the day when
>>> trombones did not have nor “need” leadpipes,
>>
>> All Trombones made since roughly 1600 A.D. have leadpipes. Our  
>> older ones had
>> them fixed, I still play fixed leadpipes, only one of the 30+  
>> trombones I have
>> actually has the removeable variety, but I never remove it.
>> The leadpipe is what centers the tone. Its real name is Venturi.
>> You might be thinking of the receiver (where the mouthpiece sits)  
>> removeable
>> leadpipes have the receiver built into them, If you remove this  
>> whole thing
>> (or play a TRombone without) your mp would just be "swimming" in an  
>> open hole.
>> It could even except a Tuba mp easily. Any Trombone you grew up  
>> with DID have
>> a leadpipe.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>> It’s still a mystery to me why manufacturers offer them
>>> now. I have never
>>> noticed any differences in tonal quality nor response that
>>> I can attribute
>>> to leadpipes. I have the standard three for my Shires bass
>>> bone. Please
>>> educate me.
>>> GRiZ
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>>
>>
>
>
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