[Trombone-l] Plunger Mute question...

[John Monroe]

OK, Everyone!

Let's not overlook Wycliffe Gordon, who's a master with Pixie and  
Plunger.  He was sensational at the ITF in 2004!

John Monroe

On Jan 6, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Daryl Burch wrote:

> Can y'all suggest some particular recordings to get so's we can hear
> said plunge-u-licious wizardry???
>
> (Would be helpful to all and bolster my iPod.)
>
> Thanks!
> -D-
>
> On Jan 6, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Samuel Keyser wrote:
>
> I agree with you, Stan.  No one could make the trombone + plunger
> combination speak like "Tricky Sam."  Part of his "trickiness" was to
> use a pixie mute with the plunger.  But part also  had to do with how
> he modified the airstream  going into the horn.  Nanton did a lot of
> shaping the airstream with syllables like "ya."  You can actually hear
> them in his playing and that is what made it so speech-like.
>
> Jay
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Stan Brager wrote:
>
>> To me, the plunger master was Joe "Tricky Sam" Nanton who was with
>> Duke
>> Ellington from the '20s until his death in the late '40s. Listen to
>> some of
>> his solos (Mood Indigo, Black and Tan Fantasy, Caravan, Main Stem,
>> etc) and
>> you'll swear that it's a real person talking. Ellington liked it so
>> much
>> that he insisted that someone in the trombone section become a growl
>> master.
>> At one time, Lawrence Brown was chosen. Brown didn't like the
>> assignment,
>> but did it none-the-less.
>>
>> Stan
>> Stan Brager
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daryl Burch [mailto:daryl at burchinteractive.com]
>> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:24 PM
>> To: James O'Briant
>> Cc: Trombone Forum
>> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Plunger Mute question...
>>
>> I would add:
>>
>> It really depends on the sound you want. I personally prefer the old,
>> cheap rubber ones with the wooden handle. The rubber dampens some of
>> the brightness off the sound and lets you growl pretty hard. And
>> since it's rubber you can squish to make different shapes or shades
>> to your sound. Of course, the clerk at the hardware store will look
>> at you funny if you don't get the handle, too...
>>
>> Some like the H&B's with the finger loop on the front.
>>
>> Side note (pun intended): I always loved listening to Snooky Young
>> work with a plunger. He could really make the thing talk. Steve Turre
>> did a great duet recording of "Since I Fell For You" on his Rhythm
>> Within album with Britt Woodman. Steve plays plungered and Britt
>> plays open. They alternate A's & bridges. And the rhythm section is a
>> shell choir (with Robin Eubanks) and shakers. A beautiful recording.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> -D-
>> www.burchinteractive.com
>> O: 707.927.4152
>> C: 707.338.8338
>> E: daryl at burchinteractive.com
>>
>> "The real warriors are the ones with the pocket protector
>> shields! ...in today's Camelot, anyway."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Jeff Albert wrote:
>>
>> There are multiple sizes, although the hardware store might not have
>> multiple sizes.  I have found that most stores have the 5.5 inch
>> variety.
>> You can get 6 inch ones, and I like the bigger ones.  I don't know
>> that it
>> really makes all that much difference, but I have a stack of them,
>> and swear
>> they all sound different. ;)
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:49 PM, James O'Briant <jobriant at garlic.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As a long-time tuba player (50 years) I'm going to partially
>>> "return to my roots" and attend a trad jazz camp as a trombone
>>> student.  One of the things I need to get is a plunger mute.
>>>
>>> Before I run down to the hardware store to buy one, can someone
>>> with some experience with these things tell me whether they come
>>> in more than one size?  If so, is there a "best" size to get?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Jim O'Briant
>>> Trombone (1957-1959, 2009- )
>>> Tuba (1959- )
>>> Gilroy, CA
>>>
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