[Trombone-l] 1938 Conn 70H slide too long...

[Tom Izzo]

Tom Izzo
Principal Trombonist, Bristol Renaissance Faire;
Bass Trombonist, West Suburban Symphony Orchestra;
Founding Director, The Naperville Area Trombone Ensemble;
Alto/Tenor/Bass/Contrabass Trombones, Tubas, Euphonium, Bass Trumpet, Electric Bass, Timpani & Percussion.
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--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Ray Horton <rayhorton at insightbb.com> wrote:

> From: Ray Horton <rayhorton at insightbb.com>
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] 1938 Conn 70H slide too long...
> To: contrabasstrombone at yahoo.com
> Cc: "Trombone List" <trombone-l at samford.edu>, "Keith Marr" <epigraph55 at hotmail.co.uk>
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:17 AM

> Tom, I am severely disappointed with that snippy response! 
> Since you
> own approximately 1/3 of the trombones in existence, I was
> hoping you
> would chime in and tell us which have the longest and
> shortest slides.
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hahahahahahahah Ohhhhh K. Sorry.
Well, to my knowledge, the Edwards, Getzen, & Conn (going on memory here, folks, since I don't own any of those in Tenor or Bass models), are the same length as other brands, however!!!! the slides are shorter, because the difference is made up in a longer bell section. Bach, Selmer, Shires, & others, have longer slides because the bell sections are shorter.
Overall length is still the same, from those models I've tried (or own).
Check with Dave Tall, ocassionally here on the list, he plays an Edwards combo with another brand slide, & he's had to compensate with a short (or long?) combination. Dave, are you reading? Can you jump in?

Now there are some models that only LOOK longer. If you compare a small bore Tenor (.500 bore) to say an 88H or 42B, the "peashooter" will appear to have a longer slide, The reason is more obvious than thought. Both instruments are in Bb/same length, particularly if you compare instruments of the same brand i.e. 42 w/Bach 8 or 12, for example. But because the spacing between the tubes in the handslide are wider apart for a larger bore, the distance the slide travels in your hand is less. The actual length of travel for the air, is the same.

Hope this helps.

Tom

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> Tom Izzo wrote:
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> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Keith Marr
> <epigraph55 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
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>     From: Keith Marr <epigraph55 at hotmail.co.uk>
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> Both my Rath R9DST and my Kanstul 1662i have a decent C on
> the end of the slide but admittedly it is halfway down the
> stocking. I couldn't imagine playing some of the charts
> I get (Watermelon Man for example) without that D valve.
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> hahahahahahahahahah
> I can't imagine playing with only a D valve!
> C valve all the way!~
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> Tom (funning of course) on his Bb/F/C models.