[Trombone-l] OT:Re: Photography & Trombones

[Jim Preston]

Yes, this is off-topic. I don't think this discussion belongs on this 
list at all. It would probably be better if those interested in 
discussing such things do so off the list via private e-mails. I have my 
political beliefs also, but I don't find it necessary to discuss them here.

Now, can we get back to important, trombone related discussions, such as 
Trombotine vs. SOM

Jim Preston



Stan Brager wrote:
> This topic has become off-topic for this list, so let's label it as such.
> 
> Bush has not kept us safer. Thanks to him, we went into Iraq which had 
> nothing to do with the business at hand - defeating terrorism. Iraq cost us 
> more than 4,000 American lives, almost 100,000 Americans wounded (many of 
> whom are not getting the care they deserve), nearly a trillion dollars of 
> direct costs and has become a recruiting cry for many to join the terrorist 
> movements. Bush's foray in Iraq, caused the real war in Afghanistan to 
> falter allowing the terrorist movement there to regroup and get stronger. 
> Thanks to Bush, the US has lost the respect of most of the world's nations 
> and people. Overall, Bush weakened America.
> 
> How can anyone claim that Bush has kept us safer when so many in this 
> country no longer have access to healthcare or higher education. When Bush 
> allowed torture and extraordinary rendition, he lowered the moral high 
> ground on which this nation has stood for many, many years.
> 
> Bush is also partly to blame for the current economic crisis.
> 
> Stan
> Stan Brager
> Trombonist-in-Training