[Trombone-l] info on a King 2B Liberty

Patrick & Lisa Bates plbates at netrover.com
Wed Sep 24 15:22:34 CDT 2008


I'll back this up. My late 30's Symphony model king has the same number on
all three pieces, while my later 2103/3B has three different numbers. My
70's 6B has matching 4 digit numbers on the slide, with a longer number on
the bell section. I think the 3B has mixed up parts?? Bought it on the bay,
probably an old school horn....
Patrick
Chatham Concert band
Primitive Roots Jazz band
Niteflite4hire.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Hudson" <fmhudson at cablelynx.com>
To: "Dave Demko" <demko61 at gmail.com>; <trombone-l at samford.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] info on a King 2B Liberty


> This thread has piqued my curiosity. My one-owner-1949-vintage 2B has the
> same 6 digit S/N on both the inner and outer slides as well as on the bell
> near the brace. The same is true of my much-travelled-30's vintage
> Silvertone.
> My 3B and 2B SilverSonic - both of late 50's vintage - have the S/N on
both
> parts of the slide but no number at all on the bell section.
> All are of H.N. White manufacture,  so the current question apparently
deals
> with changes made by one of the subsequent owners of the Mark.
>
> Not looking for answers - just thought I'd add a another potato to the
stew
> pot!
>
> Fred H
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Demko" <demko61 at gmail.com>
> To: <trombone-l at samford.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] info on a King 2B Liberty
>
>
> >I have two Kings from the `70s, a 2B and 3B with F attachment. Each
> > has a four-digit number on both parts of the slide, different from the
> > serial number near the bell brace. The rotary valve has a three-digit
> > number on the bearing and the outside of the casing. I'm guessing that
> > these extra numbers are for matching parts that belong together, once
> > they've been hand-fitted.
> >
> > Or Chris could be right. Maybe all dual-bore 2B slides have the same
> > four-digit number, and so on.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Chris Tune <christune at christune.com>
> > wrote:
> >> The King slide has another number other than a serial number on it.
This
> >> may be a part number or model number.
> >>
> >> Don't worry, every 2B is set up like this.  Chances are very strong
that
> >> a
> >> 2B Liberty has a 2B slide with it.  You are right that it is a dual
bore
> >> setup with .481 / .491
> >>
> >> Not worth a ton of money if it had very significant wear.   I bought
two
> >> of
> >> these for $400 about ten years ago.  One of the two was largely just a
> >> set
> >> of parts with lousy slide tubes.  The "parts" can be refurbished into
> >> something, but would take work. The other 2B was just fine.  I've taken
> >> that
> >> down to a slide-lightened jazz work of art thanks to Chris Gonzales.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu
> >> [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu]
> >> On Behalf Of Anthony Dahl
> >> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:28 PM
> >> To: trombone-l at samford.edu
> >> Subject: [Trombone-l] info on a King 2B Liberty
> >>
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> I found a King 2B Liberty today while going through some instruments my
> >> district had in storage, and I'm looking for some more info on it.  If
> >> you
> >> can verify/correct the following info, please email me off list.
> >>
> >> The serial number is 686675, so I think it was made between 1975-1980?
> >>
> >> The slide has a different serial number, 1789. I am thinking that it's
> >> not
> >> even a King slide because with a serial number like that it would be
from
> >> the 1890's.  But, it has the locking mechinism on the correct side to
fit
> >> the King, which is unusual for other brands I think. So any ideas where
> >> this
> >> slide came from?
> >>
> >> It should be a dual bore .481- .491 (assuming the slide is a match)?
> >>
> >> How much might it be worth with some pretty significant wear, but no
> >> major
> >> dents?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >>
> >> Anthony Dahl
> >> Manteca, CA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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