[Trombone-l] info on a King 2B Liberty

[Fred Hudson]

This thread has piqued my curiosity. My one-owner-1949-vintage 2B has the 
same 6 digit S/N on both the inner and outer slides as well as on the bell 
near the brace. The same is true of my much-travelled-30's vintage 
Silvertone.
My 3B and 2B SilverSonic - both of late 50's vintage - have the S/N on both 
parts of the slide but no number at all on the bell section.
All are of H.N. White manufacture,  so the current question apparently deals 
with changes made by one of the subsequent owners of the Mark.

Not looking for answers - just thought I'd add a another potato to the stew 
pot!

Fred H

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Demko" <demko61 at gmail.com>
To: <trombone-l at samford.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] info on a King 2B Liberty


>I have two Kings from the `70s, a 2B and 3B with F attachment. Each
> has a four-digit number on both parts of the slide, different from the
> serial number near the bell brace. The rotary valve has a three-digit
> number on the bearing and the outside of the casing. I'm guessing that
> these extra numbers are for matching parts that belong together, once
> they've been hand-fitted.
>
> Or Chris could be right. Maybe all dual-bore 2B slides have the same
> four-digit number, and so on.
>
> Dave
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Chris Tune <christune at christune.com> 
> wrote:
>> The King slide has another number other than a serial number on it.  This
>> may be a part number or model number.
>>
>> Don't worry, every 2B is set up like this.  Chances are very strong that 
>> a
>> 2B Liberty has a 2B slide with it.  You are right that it is a dual bore
>> setup with .481 / .491
>>
>> Not worth a ton of money if it had very significant wear.   I bought two 
>> of
>> these for $400 about ten years ago.  One of the two was largely just a 
>> set
>> of parts with lousy slide tubes.  The "parts" can be refurbished into
>> something, but would take work. The other 2B was just fine.  I've taken 
>> that
>> down to a slide-lightened jazz work of art thanks to Chris Gonzales.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu 
>> [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu]
>> On Behalf Of Anthony Dahl
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:28 PM
>> To: trombone-l at samford.edu
>> Subject: [Trombone-l] info on a King 2B Liberty
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I found a King 2B Liberty today while going through some instruments my
>> district had in storage, and I'm looking for some more info on it.  If 
>> you
>> can verify/correct the following info, please email me off list.
>>
>> The serial number is 686675, so I think it was made between 1975-1980?
>>
>> The slide has a different serial number, 1789. I am thinking that it's 
>> not
>> even a King slide because with a serial number like that it would be from
>> the 1890's.  But, it has the locking mechinism on the correct side to fit
>> the King, which is unusual for other brands I think. So any ideas where 
>> this
>> slide came from?
>>
>> It should be a dual bore .481- .491 (assuming the slide is a match)?
>>
>> How much might it be worth with some pretty significant wear, but no 
>> major
>> dents?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Anthony Dahl
>> Manteca, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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