[Trombone-l] Contrabass Trombone?

[emrose79@sonic.net]

or that should be F/C/A! (as I always say when I play it.. "I'm still 
learning!)










emrose79 at sonic.net wrote:
> Phil (and John), I found that I just could not get used to hearing the 
> different overtones, so I gave up. I did, however, get an F contra (F 
> true bass for Tom). It is easier to get used to the overtones, but 
> harder to get used to the positions (for me, anyway). It's like playing 
> with the F trigger pulled most of the time. You can get them in almost 
> any configuration of valves, and my Haag is set up with the same 
> differential as a conventional bass (Bb/F/D) so it's F/A/C. It can use a 
> bass mp, but the sound is a little "smaller" so I use the supplied "JK 
> exclusive KBP 2B". I know this doesn't help with your search, but....
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> Ed (member of the VERY dark side)
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> and remember my favorite quote:
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> "A contrabass trombone is not as silly as the bagpipes, but just as useless"
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> John Burton wrote:
>> Phil...
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>> When I went thru the same search a couple of years ago I found that an "F" contra was kinda like sticking a hoseclamp on my "F" trigger on my 50B3.  Didn't play any different, didn't give me much of a different sound, tho I could pull the Bb trigger on the F horn and found myself with a BBb horn.  
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>> I broke down and found a Miraphone BBb and have loved it.  In my opinion the most difficult thing to get used to is the pitch you're expecting to hear when you play a given tone.  The BBb will sound an octave lower than the Bb you're used to hearing.  It takes some 15-20 minutes to get your brain used to listening for the *correct* overtones.
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>> Since the MP is essentially the same as the Schilke 59 I play it wasn't a big switch.  I use a JKKBP 3B from The Hornguys (http://www.hornguys.com/tbnmps.htm#Josef%20Klier%20Mouthpieces).
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>> Good luck and welcome to the VERY dark side... 
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>> john burton
>> Bach 50B3 Bass Trombone
>> Kanawha Valley Community Band / Slide-by-Slide
>> South Charleston, West Virginia
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu] On Behalf Of Philip Brink
>> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 9:19 AM
>> To: Trombone-L List
>> Subject: [Trombone-l] Contrabass Trombone?
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>> Hey everybody:
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>> I have been researching instruments, trying to locate an affordable contrabass trombone. It just occurred to me that one thing I have neglected to do was to put my search on the trombone-l... well, here it is: I am looking for a decent F contra [Yeah, Tom Izzo, I know, I know!]
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>> My problem is that where I am living and working now, they are the next best thing to impossible to locate and try out. and the horns on sale on the Web cost about half a year's salay! I was hoping to find out about some obscure Chinese company making them, but no luck so far. [although I did play a Tianjin symphony tenor today that was quite respectable... at a little over... US$500! Imagine!] So, I am checking whether one or another of the listers has a used Alexander[Haag, Thein, Kanstul] or other that they are willing to part with. Let me know, OK?
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>> basstrb3 at gmail.com
>> --
>> Philip Brink
>> Instructor of Trombone
>> College of Music, Mahidol University
>> 25/25 Phutthamonthon Sai 4
>> Salaya, Nakhonpathom 73170
>> Thailand
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