[Trombone-l] Contrabass Trombone?

[emrose79@sonic.net]

Phil (and John), I found that I just could not get used to hearing the 
different overtones, so I gave up. I did, however, get an F contra (F 
true bass for Tom). It is easier to get used to the overtones, but 
harder to get used to the positions (for me, anyway). It's like playing 
with the F trigger pulled most of the time. You can get them in almost 
any configuration of valves, and my Haag is set up with the same 
differential as a conventional bass (Bb/F/D) so it's F/A/C. It can use a 
bass mp, but the sound is a little "smaller" so I use the supplied "JK 
exclusive KBP 2B". I know this doesn't help with your search, but....

Ed (member of the VERY dark side)

and remember my favorite quote:

"A contrabass trombone is not as silly as the bagpipes, but just as useless"













John Burton wrote:
> Phil...
> 
> When I went thru the same search a couple of years ago I found that an "F" contra was kinda like sticking a hoseclamp on my "F" trigger on my 50B3.  Didn't play any different, didn't give me much of a different sound, tho I could pull the Bb trigger on the F horn and found myself with a BBb horn.  
> 
> I broke down and found a Miraphone BBb and have loved it.  In my opinion the most difficult thing to get used to is the pitch you're expecting to hear when you play a given tone.  The BBb will sound an octave lower than the Bb you're used to hearing.  It takes some 15-20 minutes to get your brain used to listening for the *correct* overtones.
> 
> Since the MP is essentially the same as the Schilke 59 I play it wasn't a big switch.  I use a JKKBP 3B from The Hornguys (http://www.hornguys.com/tbnmps.htm#Josef%20Klier%20Mouthpieces).
> 
> Good luck and welcome to the VERY dark side... 
> 
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> john burton
> Bach 50B3 Bass Trombone
> Kanawha Valley Community Band / Slide-by-Slide
> South Charleston, West Virginia
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu] On Behalf Of Philip Brink
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 9:19 AM
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> Subject: [Trombone-l] Contrabass Trombone?
> 
> Hey everybody:
> 
> I have been researching instruments, trying to locate an affordable contrabass trombone. It just occurred to me that one thing I have neglected to do was to put my search on the trombone-l... well, here it is: I am looking for a decent F contra [Yeah, Tom Izzo, I know, I know!]
> 
> My problem is that where I am living and working now, they are the next best thing to impossible to locate and try out. and the horns on sale on the Web cost about half a year's salay! I was hoping to find out about some obscure Chinese company making them, but no luck so far. [although I did play a Tianjin symphony tenor today that was quite respectable... at a little over... US$500! Imagine!] So, I am checking whether one or another of the listers has a used Alexander[Haag, Thein, Kanstul] or other that they are willing to part with. Let me know, OK?
> 
> basstrb3 at gmail.com
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> Philip Brink
> Instructor of Trombone
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