[Trombone-l] Dvorak Symphony No. 9 (NWS)

[daveburch@fuse.net]

Here's another example: Ravel's 'Sheherazade' is a 30-40 minute orchestral 
suite with soprano. He uses the trombones for one brief passage, just a few bars in the 2nd movement. In his defense, these are a really cool few bars, the climax of a long buildup where the trombones get to put on the capper (reminds me of Sibelius' 
7th in this regard). 
 
--Dave Burch 

---- Keith Marr <epigraph55 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > I'm not picking a side here, just asking a question.  Should those
> > sorts of logistical considerations outweigh artistic considerations in
> > the composer's mind as the piece is orchestrated?
> > 
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> In an ideal world artistic considerations would always take priority but the man that foots the bill for the concert will have a say in the matter and when times are hard it can mean not getting your pieces performed. I wouldn't be surprised if it means popular pieces get missed off community orchestra programmes too, especially in countries where players of a certain instrument are hard to find. We find there are many orchestras over here in UK where players play in several bands to cover the shortage.
> 
> There is another issue here too, that of compositional discipline. I know I had to write the cor anglais out of a piece a year or so back as they wouldn't pay the fee for a guy to play a dozen bars. In the end I wrote the 2nd oboe out and put it all onto the cor anglais instead. It made it a little high in places but far from impossible. In the end the piece was better for it. I think the point someone made about Dvorak's wanting to broaden out the narrow bore trombone sound by adding the tuba for a few bars could be a valid reason for omitting the tuba. I doubt anyone other than the tuba player would notice these days (no offense tubby guys!).
> 
> As for Das Lied, well I played mandolin in the 8th Symphony once so I know where Mahler's coming from - obviously had no budget constraints!
> 
> Good exchange of ideas.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Keith in Bb/F/D
> 
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