[Trombone-l] bass trumpet

Tom Izzo contrabasstrombone at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 18 23:16:58 CDT 2008



--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Jason Smith <jbone72 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Jason Smith <jbone72 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] bass trumpet
> To: "Wayne Dyess" <texastbone at gt.rr.com>, "bone list" <trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 6:17 PM
> I thought in Italian the word for trombone means big
> trumpet, because I always joke that in the last days when
> Gabriel blows the last trumpet that they are actually going
> to blow a trombone because they want to blow the bigest
> trumpet they can find.  lol

Close, but no cigar. It actually translates closer to "large" trumpet. Which I've always contended was misheard & should have been "ENlarging" Trumpet, (slide moves out, looks like a trumpet enlarging). Remember when the terms "Trumpet" & "Trombone"'s were coined, there weren't yet valves, but there already were slides.

> 
> on a related note,  when we wash out tubas (which we are
> doing alot lately)  they alway say not to worry that they
> are just big cornets,  they are still something heavy when
> they get full of water
> 
Closer to modern "Flugelhorns" (Original Cornets). Today's cornet is more of a hybrid halfway between a Trumpet (cylindrical) & a Flugel (conical).
A true Baritone Horn is a large Cornet. A Euphonium is a large Flugel.
Bass Horns are megacornets, True Tubas are more conical.
I wouldn't hesitate calling a Sousaphone (Suzyphone to Brian FR) a large cornet, though. LOL

Tom

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> --- On Wed, 6/18/08, Wayne Dyess
> <texastbone at gt.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Wayne Dyess <texastbone at gt.rr.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] bass trumpet
> > To: thetubameister at adelphia.net
> > Cc: trombone-l at samford.edu
> > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 6:00 PM
> > On Jun 18, 2008, at 8:05 AM,
> > <thetubameister at adelphia.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Remember, there are a HUGE variety of bores and bore
> > profiles in  
> > trombones (doesn't trombone mean "big
> > trumpet"?) and trumpets.
> > 
> > 
> > =========
> > 
> > Shirley, you jest!!!
> > 
> > 
> > I'm sure -- nay, no POSITIVE -- that you meant the
> word
> > "trumpet"  
> > means "little trombone" and is simply a
> smaller
> > member of the  
> > trombone choir.
> > 
> > 
> > SHIRLEY...
> > That's how I see it.
> > 
> > Oh yeah.
> > 
> > Wayne
> > 
> > 
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