[Trombone-l] Tommy Turk - Redux

[Bob Koester]

John Bunch.  Now there's a name from the past.  What a great piano player!!  When I first played Tony Bennett at the Latin Casino in Cherry Hill,  NJ in '67 or '68, John Bunch was with Tony.  What a treat!!

Happy New Year to all,
Bob




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> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:56:26 -0500
> From: jwessner at towson.edu
> To: TROMBONE-L at server5.SAMFORD.EDU
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Tommy Turk - Redux
>
> He was different than anybody else I listened to during the 50s - not counting JJ & Kay. I don't recall any multiple tonguing, but he definitely played articulated rips against the grain. I was probably too young to know then and too old to remember now how structured his solos were. I listened to him in quartets and quintets in clubs. He kicked butt, as was necessary in the setting. He was not playing for the likes of us today, but for people like my uncle, a salesman who knew every bartender in town and told my father that he thought the "choruses" were medleys. (That has contributed to some of my cynicism about people who critique jazz to this day.) His usual pianist in those days was John Bunch. It was all good musicians playing hard driving straight ahead jazz. I don't recall any be-bop heads.
> jw
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Tune
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 3:58 PM
> To: 'Stan Brager'; 'Dave Hanson'; 'Trombone-L'
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Tommy Turk - Redux
>
> I'd like to hear these JATP. I've heard many times just how advanced Tommy
> Turk was. From the sound of it, he was way, way ahead of the typical 1940's
> jazz bone player. Also, from the sound of it, he was probably a different,
> more "instinctive" type of player (maybe I'm wrong about that).
>
> What techniques is Tommy using? I'm guessing he had multiple tongue and
> "across the grain" well in hand. Does he seem to have a master plan of
> attack or a logic, to his soloing, or does he seem to be really out on the
> ice (I sometimes imagine myself having been shoved out onto an ice rink and
> told to-- DANCE!!! My little analogy for improv). . . just totally
> impromptu?
>
> Chris Tune
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu]
> On Behalf Of Stan Brager
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 11:53 AM
> To: Dave Hanson; Trombone-L
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Tommy Turk - Redux
>
> I realized that I had a couple of CDs of JATP. One of them is from another
> Carnegie Hall concert on November 2, 1949. This one features 3 more cuts
> with Tommy Turk:
>
> Leap Here
> Indiana (Back Home Again In)
> Lover Come Back To Me
>
> The personnel is somewhat different with Sonny Criss joining Charlie Parker
> on alto, Fats Navarro on trumpet, and Shelly Manne on drums. Roy Eldridge,
> Lester Young and Buddy Rich are out. Other than these changes, the personnel
>
> on the above 3 cuts are the same as the September concert. Norman Granz does
>
> all the introductions.
>
> Cuts 5-8 feature Coleman Hawkins on tenor with Fats Navarro and the rhythm
> section.
>
> Rifftide
> Sophisticated lady
> The Things We Did Last Summer
> Stuffy
>
> Stan
> Stan Brager
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Hanson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:44 AM
> Subject: [Trombone-l] Tommy Turk
>
>
> I was recently going through my many CD's and ran across one with the little
>
> known trombonist Tommy Turk on a Norman Granz, Jazz at the Philharmonic
> recording. Also at this event was Charlie Parker as I remember but have lost
>
> the jeweled box it came in, that lists all the players.
>
> This was performed in 1949 long before I heard jazzers like Frank Rosolino
> and J.J. Johnson. Anyone on this list familiar with Tommy Turk ?
>
> Happy New Year all !
>
> Dave Hanson
> Atlanta
>
>
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