[Trombone-l] Question
Chris Tune
christune at christune.com
Mon Feb 4 09:21:26 CST 2008
Funny. . .I was asking that same sort of question of Gary Herbig, who was
playing double reeds in the Pit orchestra of "Oliver" this weekend. Gary
and I had dinner Sun, and we briefly spoke about the problem of having music
"stuck" in your head. I said that I had purposely begun to sing a song I
like (Star Eyes) to try and clean out the cranium. When I asked Gary if he
had unwelcome songs get stuck in there, he said "Of course".
Really, I think you must have some sort of "prototype" trombone sound in
there in order to make a decent trombone sound. As you get more in tune,
with the right attack, and the chosen amount of vibrato (or no vibrato),
volume and so forth, you are inching closer to an archtype. Musicians are
not the only ones who have this kind of phenomenon. Audio engineers are
noted for discussing this at length. They seek archtyped sounds and
soundscapes. They employ certain techniques to get there.
One reason some may deny this, is that our minds can simultaneously think
about many things. This leads to us hearing melody and harmony and
accompanying sounds simultaneously. . .sometimes whether we like it or not.
Also, some may feel that they "should" sound some particular way, when it
probably isn't the best thing to get into "should" but to see what CAN be
done.
-----Original Message-----
From: trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at samford.edu]
On Behalf Of Daryl Burch
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 11:46 PM
To: Samuel Jay Keyser
Cc: Trombone-l at samford.edu
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Question
As far as hearing music in my head... constantly.
As far as singing what I play.... even more so. When it comes to
soloing I hear myself making the same phrases song to song. And the
challenge is to try sing either different phrases or alter the
phrases so as to not repeat myself over and over... a constant
struggle. So I try to listen to more/diverse players and emulate
them or transcribe as many different styles as I can so as to
increase said soloing vocabulary.
...Did I just take this way off topic????
On a language note: Around about my 3rd year of taking German, I
found myself listening in English (American). Translating into German
in my head. Then re-translating into English before I'd answer. This
continued until about 2 or 3 years after my 5th year of German (in
college). This made for some verrrrrry interesting conversations with
German tourists when I was in the Caribbean and had a few too many
Red Stripes....
Now it only comes around after many beers and hanging with some
German friends in San Francisco. (No! Not in the Castro District!)
Cheers!
-D-
www.radionoise.com <= Rockstar by night
www.burchinteractive.com <= Technerd by day
On Feb 2, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Samuel Jay Keyser wrote:
> I've got an odd question I'd like to ask the listers. Since I
> anticipate a lot of you will answer, let me apologize now for not
> replying to each of you. I am just curious about what you would say
> about this.
>
> Everybody knows that we can "hear ourselves" thinking in English (or
> whatever our native language might be) even though we are not actually
> speaking out loud . For example, we can say our name to ourselves and
> actually hear it inside our heads. If you aren't sure about this,
> just think of what you are doing as you read this.
>
> Now, I'm wondering if the listers can hear their trombone playing in
> the same way. That is, listening to the language inside your head is
> called "silent speech." Can you listers also hear "silent music?"
>
> Jay
>
>
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