[Trombone-l] Extra low valve settings

[Marius Helgå]

I guess this discussion has made mr. Aharoni write several new chapters for
his method book :-)

Have a nice weekend everybody!

Marius Helgå
Bass trombone
Mo i Rana, Norway


On 01.08.08 19:27, "Ray Horton" <rayhorton at insightbb.com> wrote:

> 
> Sorry, for some reason I read Jeff's reply about Ed Anderson first.
> 
> 
> With a Bb - F - D in-line setup, one does not play the two valves
> together.   The D is a separate valve to make it speak the most clearly
> and quickly.    Not my way of doing things - to my mind this gives up
> much of the advantage of the in-line valves, for just a little gain, but
> to each his own. 
> 
> 
> Raymond Horton
> Louisville Orchestra
> 
> 
> Dennis Clason wrote:
>> I guess you'd do it because you like the extra weight.
>> 
>> Actually, if you're playing extensively on both valves (in D), you get
>> less resistance if you retune the finger paddle to D.  The combination
>> is then either a flat B or sharp Bb (call it what you like -- it's not
>> in-tune).
>> 
>> Personally:
>> (1)  I don't like the extra weight.
>> (2)  I really dislike losing the Gb, C, B in the staff with the finger
>> paddle.
>> (3)  I don't find the tuning very useful at all.  That being the case,
>> (4)  I really, really don't like the extra weight.
>> 
>> Keith Marr wrote:
>>   
>>> Occasionally I see valve settings whereby the Gb valve can be tuned down to
>>> D. There's a couple of questions I have about that:
>>> 
>>> 1 Why would you do this? The second valve must have a heck of a resistance.
>>> 
>>> 2 With the Gb valve tuned to D what is the result of the combination of both
>>> valves. Must be very low and a real lung-burster.
>>> 
>>> One imagines the possibility of pedal tones down off the bottom of the piano
>>> register. (Yes, I know you can do this anyway with false tones - stop
>>> showing off!)
>>> 
>>> Although these are usually custom tuning arrangements for individuals I see
>>> the Weril Gagliardi comes with a D crook for the second valve as standard
>>> issue.
>>> 
>>> Enquiring minds need to know.
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> 
>>> Keith in Bb/F/D
>>> Bass Trombone: St Albans Symphony Orchestra, Page Three Big Band and
>>> Mid Herts Jazz Orchestra
>>> Soloist: Alto, tenor and bass trombones
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