[Trombone-l] Extra low valve settings

[Ray Horton]

Sorry, for some reason I read Jeff's reply about Ed Anderson first. 


With a Bb - F - D in-line setup, one does not play the two valves 
together.   The D is a separate valve to make it speak the most clearly 
and quickly.    Not my way of doing things - to my mind this gives up 
much of the advantage of the in-line valves, for just a little gain, but 
to each his own. 


Raymond Horton
Louisville Orchestra


Dennis Clason wrote:
> I guess you'd do it because you like the extra weight.
>
> Actually, if you're playing extensively on both valves (in D), you get 
> less resistance if you retune the finger paddle to D.  The combination 
> is then either a flat B or sharp Bb (call it what you like -- it's not 
> in-tune).
>
> Personally:
> (1)  I don't like the extra weight.
> (2)  I really dislike losing the Gb, C, B in the staff with the finger 
> paddle.
> (3)  I don't find the tuning very useful at all.  That being the case,
> (4)  I really, really don't like the extra weight.
>
> Keith Marr wrote:
>   
>> Occasionally I see valve settings whereby the Gb valve can be tuned down to D. There's a couple of questions I have about that:
>>
>> 1 Why would you do this? The second valve must have a heck of a resistance.
>>
>> 2 With the Gb valve tuned to D what is the result of the combination of both valves. Must be very low and a real lung-burster.
>>
>> One imagines the possibility of pedal tones down off the bottom of the piano register. (Yes, I know you can do this anyway with false tones - stop showing off!)
>>
>> Although these are usually custom tuning arrangements for individuals I see the Weril Gagliardi comes with a D crook for the second valve as standard issue.
>>
>> Enquiring minds need to know.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Keith in Bb/F/D
>> Bass Trombone: St Albans Symphony Orchestra, Page Three Big Band and 
>> Mid Herts Jazz Orchestra
>> Soloist: Alto, tenor and bass trombones
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