[Trombone-l] Equipment Question and Euphonium
ALEX ILES
alexiles at earthlink.net
Thu Jun 7 12:48:57 CDT 2007
Roy Main, the previous owner of my Yamaha 321had Robb Stewart put a
tuning trigger assembly on the main tuning slide. It allows me to
adjust the troublesome notes and also allows for settling in the
"trigger" notes.
Also, you might want to experiment with mouthpieces. I finally
settled on a Denis Wick 4AY, which was designed specifically with the
Yamaha in mind. Too many "doublers" use something like a 6.5AL or a
5G and these TROMBONE mouthpieces are usually to U-shaped to get a
characteristic euphonium sound.
Also, most trombone players new to the instrument play the euphonium
too loud and bright in ensemble situations [maybe since the sound is
coming at them at a new angle...?]. There is a nice resonance to a
euph that is very different from a "good" trombone sound which takes
some time to find. I like the sound Michael Mulcahy gets on the tenor
tuba [check out the orchestral excerpt CD he put out with Jeff
Reynolds playing bass trombone excerpts].
Good luck,
LX
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On Jun 7, 2007, at 7:44 AM, <thetubameister at adelphia.net> wrote:
> My experience is that most Euphs have D as a false tone, not Eb.
> On three-valvers, I use 123 and lip the bejeezus out of it.
>
> The yamaha, however, has a crummy falsetone range, but you only
> need it on B, as Eb and C are ease to pull for on the first valve
> slide.
>
> - 2cents as a 321 player...
>
> J.c.
>
> ---- Walter Barrett <walttrombone at optonline.net> wrote:
>> The 321 is a 4 valve horn, no reason to fake those notes, except for
>> maybe lip practice, and as a curiosity. They don't come out so well
>> on the 201 (3 valve version of the 321). The 321 was based on the
>> basic proportions of the older Bessons, do the false tones work on
>> those horns, or do they work better on American style "baritones?"
>>
>> They don't come out on my 641, for what that's worth...
>>
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2007, at 2:48 AM, Richardson, Timothy A Mr CIV USA/IMCOM-
>> Europe wrote:
>>
>>> Does anybody know if the 321 comes with the Eb false tone series
>>> built
>>> in?
>>>
>>> Some euphs have it, especially older noncompensating ones, and some
>>> don't, for reasons I don't understand. My old Martin plays them
>>> well,
>>> they center about as well as trigger notes would, but many of the
>>> modern
>>> horns I try won't play them at all.
>>
>>
>> Walter Barrett
>>
>> "What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we
>> know for sure that just ain't so."
>> -Mark Twain
>>
>> Alto, tenor, bass trombones
>> Bass trumpet, euphonium, tuba
>> Yamaha Artist/Clinician
>> http://www.walterbarrett.com
>>
>>
>>
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