[Trombone-l] Fw: Trading fours, toasters, sopranobone/slidetrumpet question

[Bill Dinwiddie]

> Hi Patrick,
>
> "Trading Fours" is a term used by jazz players to indicate that two or 
> more soloists are going to improvise in 4 bar segments, one after the 
> other. This can take place in various ways. Two soloists can simply 
> alternate 4 bars segments. In a 12 bar blues, three players can play 4 
> bars each which will equal one 12 bar chorus. Another way to do it is that 
> soloist #1 can play 4 bars and then the drummer plays 4 bars, then soloist 
> #2 plays 4 and the drummer plays 4, etc.
>
> All this kind of thing usually happens about 3/4 of the way into the tune, 
> after the main soloists have had their chance to play 2 or 3 choruses 
> each. After fours are played, the usual tendency is to go back to the 
> "head", which will normally be the final chorus of that tune.
>
> Most players try to avoid trading fours on every tune as this tends to 
> become repetitious. Although it is a very good vehicle for extending the 
> tune and bringing about more excitement, it can be over used, so judicious 
> use is recommended.
>
> Bill Dinwiddie
> billdin at comcast.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patrik Arvhult" <urvhalt at yahoo.se>
> To: <Trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:52 AM
> Subject: [Trombone-l] Trading fours, toasters,sopranobone/slidetrumpet 
> question
>
>
> Hello!
>
> Got two questions
>
> Sometimes i read suff on the list that makes me feel
> more stupid than usual: "Trading fours"?? Whats that?
> (In Sweden we dont trade fours very often - we usually
> trade with toasters, shields, meatballs and
> three-legged dogs.)
>
> Please someone explain what "trading fours" refers to
> - how many toasters do i have to put out for a couple
> of fours?
>
> My second question:
>
> Playing both trombone and trumpet (or rather cheating
> on the trumpet), i guess it would be fun playing a
> slide-trumpet, like the Jupiter JST 314L.
>
> It does not seem to have any tuning slide bow: is it
> by design tunable with its slide - like - first
> position gives a somewhat outa tune, high Bb and the
> other end, pos 7 gives a  somewhat low H(B).
>
> Whilst writing another solution comes to my mind -
> maybe it cant get more out of tune than that i am able
> to bend the tone into good pitch - just play it in
> tune.
>
> Or is it a toy that just cant be properly tuned in all
> conditions?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Patrik Arvhult
> Bass & Tenor Vasteras, Sweden
>
>
>
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