[Trombone-l] Bolero

Samuel Keyser keyser at MIT.EDU
Tue Jan 9 11:23:56 CST 2007


In Richard Sudhalter's Lost Chords, he writes that Toscanini always  
hired Miff Mole when he was doing Bolero because Mole was the only  
trombone player he could trust to nail the high B-flat every time  
without fail.

Mole was one of the great and innovative swing players whose role in  
trombone history has slipped (pun intended) off the screen.

Jay



On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:02 AM, Chris Tune wrote:

> Incidentally, Fowler hits EVERY note. . .some of them several  
> times. And he
> has been very liberal with glissandi.
>
> His version is vastly more innovative (although the vehicle is  
> really not
> the greatest. . .even Ravel admitted that often!) than the regular  
> "off the
> rack" version that one would be forced to play if hired by a Symphony
> Orchestra (I'm sure the players in almost any orchestra could,  
> each, come up
> with their own, unique interpretation. . but famously orchestras  
> tend to
> want things to be adhered to certain standard approaches).
>
> I personally like doing the Ravel Bolero as if I was the  
> reincarnation of
> Tommy Dorsey.  I try to stay very immaculately glass-like with the  
> sound and
> vibrato ala 1930's 1940's.       I do this because I've read about  
> Ravel's
> reasons for including the trombone solo (He liked the way Tommy Dorsey
> sounded--he was thinking of having this done a la TD--also Diner  
> did it for
> me once that way, and it sounded pretty cool).
>
> Chris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Tune" <crtune at adelphia.net>
> To: "Howard Lamb" <hlamb at midsouth.rr.com>; "David W. Buckley"
> <davebuckley at cogeco.ca>; "Wayne Dyess" <TexasTbone at gt.rr.com>;  
> "Trombone-L"
> <TROMBONE-L at server5.SAMFORD.EDU>
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter
>
>
>> I can assure you just by looking at this visage on my (right now  
>> MUTE. .
>> .I'm gonna get the audio fixed in a minute, dammit!) computer that  
>> this is
>> none other than BRUCE FOWLER.
>>
>> Conductor:  FRANK ZAPPA.
>>
>> I'd probably look at Frank, after all, he's smoking a cigarette.   
>> That
>> somehow seems more "workman-like". . .in a sorta unsavory way.    
>> Just the
>> kind of thing to "rivet" my attention.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Howard Lamb" <hlamb at midsouth.rr.com>
>> To: "David W. Buckley" <davebuckley at cogeco.ca>; "Wayne Dyess"
>> <TexasTbone at gt.rr.com>; "Trombone-L" <TROMBONE-L at server5.SAMFORD.EDU>
>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter
>>
>>
>>> Might be Bruce Fowler.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David W. Buckley" <davebuckley at cogeco.ca>
>>> To: "Wayne Dyess" <TexasTbone at gt.rr.com>; "Trombone-L"
>>> <TROMBONE-L at server5.SAMFORD.EDU>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter
>>>
>>>
>>>> That is hilarious Wayne. Who is the trombone player?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Wayne Dyess" <TexasTbone at gt.rr.com>
>>>> To: "Trombone-L" <TROMBONE-L at server5.SAMFORD.EDU>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:32 PM
>>>> Subject: [Trombone-l] Fwd: Angie's letter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ummmm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Chris Tune wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe it is OK to admit that you look at the
>>>>>>> conductor. . . .It's not
>>>>>>> like she said she FOLLOWED directions or anything. . . .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right.  I look at her, too, sometimes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>
>>>>> ======
>>>>>
>>>>> I, of course, was referring to the FEMALE symphony conductor.  No
>>>>> offense, Angie.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a conductor you would NOT want to watch -- EVER!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2CpWTGVC7U
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Smiles,
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>
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Samuel Jay Keyser
Editor, Linguistic Inquiry
Emeritus Professor of Linguistics
Department of Linguistics
     and Philosophy
MIT




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