[Trombone-l] Comparable mpc to Laskey 85MD

Denny Seifried ddsbstrb at woh.rr.com
Sun Feb 18 08:28:24 CST 2007


Jim---Paul is very correct concerning the tuning problem with many Bach bass 
trombones. I had to have Chuck Ward remove 3/8th inch from the tuning slide 
receivers on my Bach 50B. I was having to play pushed all the way "in" under 
normal temp. conditions and really had difficulty when ever I had to 
perform, outdoors, on a rather cool evening, like can happen here in Ohio, 
during summer, outdoor concerts.

According to what I have read, remove from the tuning slide receivers (you 
will have to also cut the same from the end of the tuning slide) is the most 
successful method, as trying to shorten a tuning slide can be very risky, 
because of the drastic taper involved in cutting a tuning slide. I wouldn't 
want to mess with that critical area; whereas the receivers are all 
same-diameter tubing.

Paul------are the 42B's a little long, also? I just purchased a very nice 
traditional wrap, 80's 42B and I have to play with it pushed almost all the 
way in, to get up to pitch. I am sure my mouthpiece choice is not helping 
either, which is a Bach 1.5G, until my Doug Elliott gets here, with a 114 
rim and some tenor cup and backbore parts of his. I know a 1.5G isn't doing 
this horn any favors!

Denny Seifried
Bass Trombone-Springfield (OH) Symphony & Dayton Jazz Orchestra
Adjunct Trombone-Wittenberg Univ. Dept. of Music



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Kemp" <trbnplyr at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Bonemaster'" <bonemstr at america.net>; <trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Comparable mpc to Laskey 85MD


> The other alternative is to have the tuning slide cut down. The Bach 50
> was designed originally around the 1.5G, and I would assume that the
> Laskey 85MD is larger than the 1.5G, and they haven't changed their
> design in 60 years. You might start with cutting 1/8 inch of each tube,
> and that will shorten the horn by half an inch. (1/8 x 4 tubes) If it is
> still flat, cut another eighth. Ideally, you want enough the horn sharp
> enough so that you can pull your tuning slide some---1/2 inch or so.
> Again, a GOOD repair technician is necessary.
>
> Paul Kemp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu
> [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu] On Behalf Of
> Bonemaster
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 8:50 AM
> To: trombone-l at server5.samford.edu
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Comparable mpc to Laskey 85MD
>
> Why not have the Laskey 'turned down' by a capable repair technician?
> There's a way to test it by seeing if it's a good fit but just short or
> if
> it wiggles/pivots from either the top or the end of the shank. If the
> fit is
> even and solid, it would seem to be a matter of turning the shank down
> with
> the exact same taper.
> Perhaps Eric S or another lister with this experience and/or skill can
> speak
> to this.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu
> [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu]On Behalf Of
> jimandcat at juno.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:58 PM
> To: trombone-l at server5.samford.edu
> Subject: [Trombone-l] Comparable mpc to Laskey 85MD
>
>
> I have a Laskey 85MD that I loaned to a student. On my Shires, it goes
> into the leadpipe about 3/8ths of an inch farther than into his Bach
> 50B3
> leadpipe. The result is that his first positions are always flat.
>
> He really likes the 85MD (better than his Bach 1 1/2G), can someone
> recommend a mouthpiece similar to the 85MD that would fit in a Bach
> leadpipe correctly?
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