[Trombone-l] Boos

[Steve Gamble]

Jason,

Now that you mention it, my advice works in the practice room, too.

Steve Gamble, Librarian
Tucson Symphony Orchestra
2175 N. 6th Ave.
Tucson, AZ  85705
520-792-9155 x118 office
520-792-9314 fax
520-991-7056 cell
sgamble at tucsonsymphony.org
www.tucsonsymphony.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Smith [mailto:jbone72 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:12 AM
To: Steve Gamble; bone list
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Boos

Something that I have learned.  

When I go to a concert and hear a performer I want to
compliment I say "I enjoyed your playing" not "you're
good".  This allows me to compliment without having to
justify my compliment.  
We all should be performing for some body's enjoyment,
Your audience, your momma, your Creator.  Without that
outward thought we can tend to be rather esoteric and
would be better off back home in the practice room
playing with ourselves.

Jason
--- Steve Gamble <sgamble at tucsonsymphony.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> The truth of the matter is that you don't really
> know why the audience
> is applauding either.  They don't REALLY know what
> you are trying to
> accomplish on stage, you don't REALLY know why they
> bought their
> tickets.  And it doesn't matter why.  Believing that
> there can be actual
> artistic communication is a matter of faith at best.
>  Sure, I enjoy it
> when I can give someone something that makes them
> happy.  But who knows
> why it makes them happy?  Just about every student
> I've ever had was too
> concerned with what the audience thought of what
> they were doing,
> usually having a negative effect on their playing. 
> I teach them a
> little mental exercise: Whenever someone says
> something bad about your
> playing, think to yourself "there are critics
> everywhere."  Whenever
> someone says something good about your playing,
> think to yourself,
> "there are critics everywhere."
> 
> Steve Gamble, Librarian
> Tucson Symphony Orchestra
> 2175 N. 6th Ave.
> Tucson, AZ  85705
> 520-792-9155 x118 office
> 520-792-9314 fax
> 520-991-7056 cell
> sgamble at tucsonsymphony.org
> www.tucsonsymphony.org
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu
> [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu] On
> Behalf Of Chris
> Tune
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 9:04 AM
> To: Daryl Burch; Daniel Pliskin
> Cc: List Trombone
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Boos
> 
> Yes DP, and it is not just Erhard.  That is in every
> thorough treatise
> on 
> basic psychology.  It comes down to a built-in part
> of us that wants to 
> "belong" and to be considered part of the group.  We
> are, after all
> "homo" 
> sapiens.  Intelligent beings who prefer being in
> groups--so we are
> loaded 
> with mechanisms designed to help us "fit in".
> However, you can learn, as
> a 
> performer, to control how you react to stuff like
> that.
> 
> DEFENSE:
> If you are absolutely positive that you and your
> group put out a great 
> effort and perhaps a very good performance (based
> upon your internalized
> 
> standards), then you can easily deal with situations
> like this. You take
> any 
> parenthetical note of anything you might have done
> different to
> "entertain", 
> and balance that against the idea that this group
> may have been
> impossible 
> to reach.
> 
> TALENT SHOW:
> I just saw a similar thing at my kid's school  It is
> ia parochial school
> and 
> ths was the High School talent show.  The row we
> were in had several
> teenage 
> girls who absolutely refused to stop talking DURING
> THE PERFORMANCES.
> My 
> wife and I and a bunch of other neighbors spoke
> right to them and said 
> "Would You STOP TALKING?"  . . .thus, despite their
> most likely
> believing 
> themselves to be Christian (most students at this
> school look at it this
> 
> way) they were nonetheless, immature and rude. . .of
> course anybody
> familiar 
> with theology knows that Christianity presumes
> FLAWS.   Well, these gals
> 
> sure showed theirs.
> 
> I couldn't help but notice even greater boredom and
> lack of appreciation
> 
> during the performance who did a very difficult and
> nice Chopin Prelude
> on 
> piano, and during the String Quartet and Piano piece
> (unknown composer.
> . 
> .modern, with Spanish ideas), and less distraction
> during the singer or 
> singer guitar player stuff, as well as during the
> hip-hop dance numbers.
> 
> Obviously lots of this stuff is "social" stuff.  Who
> is more popular,
> etc. 
> The pianist doing the Chopin was undoubtedly the
> single most talented
> person 
> to perform.  That didn't mean she ever had a chance
> to win.  The first
> place 
> winner was a hip-hop dance group (who, even I would
> admit had worked
> hard 
> and turned in a very good performance and OBVIOUSLY
> had dance talent).
> 
> DANCE
> Also, noteworthy--I'm not someone who normally likes
> anything Hip-Hop.
> But 
> I could see how young crowds, particularly those who
> like to dance,
> could 
> get involved in this music.  The dance steps are
> relatively easy to get
> into 
> on a basic level, and then they are like "line
> dancing" in that random 
> groups can be formed to do dance routines. Dancing
> is where it is at as
> far 
> as most popular music eras are concerned.  The Swing
> Era (Lindy Hop),
> Early 
> Rock-and-Roll (Twist, etc.), The Waltz Era, Country
> Music (Two-Step,
> Line 
> Dances)--all have their dances, and crowds that like
> to go out to dance 
> That is the link between musically schooled
> audiences, and non-musical
> folk.
> 
> Chris
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Daryl Burch" <darylburch at speakeasy.net>
> To: "Daniel Pliskin" <daniel_pliskin at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "List Trombone" <trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 12:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Boos
> 
> 
> Good words, Dan. Good on ya for adding that.
> 
> -D-
> 
> 
> On Feb 11, 2007, at 8:18 PM, Daniel Pliskin wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Jay, I agree with you. I don't think that people
> who do this have even
> > the
> > remotest idea of how much they are hurting all the
> artists involved. I
> > think
> > they think they are being funny. They aren't.
> 
> 
> If I may borrow something from Werner Erhard, for a
> moment, what they
> did was to say boo.  What each of you interpreted
> from that act was
> something personal, but you'll probably never know
> what was actually
> meant by their action.
> 
> 
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Jason Smith

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