[Trombone-l] Listening to Frank...

[Jeff Albert]

While I agree that playing dude x's mouthpiece will not make me sound
like dude x, if there is a sound that dude x gets, that I can't seem
to replicate, knowing what his gear is can't be all bad.  I'm saying
this in terms of mature developed players, more than high school kids.

In 2000, I was making a CD, and I kept bugging the mixing engineer
about the eq on my sound.  I finally brought him a Steve Davis CD, and
said "check out this sound."  As I did that, I realized that Steve was
playing radically larger gear than I was at the time.  That started a
long gear exploration for me.  I never did begin to sound like Steve
Davis, and I never have played his gear, but I don't have to bug
engineers about eq to make me sound like I want to sound anymore.
Looking at the relationship of gear and sound made it easier for me to
make the music I want to make.  Gear isn't the answer or magic potion,
but it is part of the equation.

Jeff

On Dec 30, 2007 3:25 PM, Daryl Burch <daryl at burchinteractive.com> wrote:
> I just wanted to know for the very reason that some guys like 2Bs for
> their cutting ability and some like Conn's. Many I know like Bach
> 16's with a shallow cup MP.
>
> I'm usually the 1st to cringe at our geek-dom whenever y'all whip out
> the calipers and start measuring stuff. But this time I happened to
> be listening to Frank and thought his high F could've given me a buzz
> cut.
>
> I've been known to blow a few guitar players (with big amps) off
> stage--be it on the 2B or the 42. But I don't have that cutting
> ability (or stability) of facility up high like THAT. (Now ya got me
> soundin' like a Jesse Jackson rant!) And am finally to point where
> I'd like to explore how to build it up.
>
> ...and I don't have the pocket change some of y'all got to change
> gear on a whim. I was merely asking to ask.
>
> Kinda like how had I not asked, I wouldn't have found out Greg Boyer
> plays a Schmelzer–a horn I'd never heard of before and would love to
> play for a weekend. (Then I'd figger out how to pay for one.) But I
> have no delusions that merely buying a $5000 horn is going make me
> sound like I played in P-Funk for 25yrs.
>
> As a "general" observation: The guys I know that gots the biggest/
> best-est/most expensive gear got the least chops/soul/groove/talent/
> stuff to say.
>
> And as Dennis Miller has said many times, "That's just my opinion. I
> could be wrong."
>
> Here's to everybody gettin' a little groove in their step in 2008!
>
> Cheers!
> -D-
> www.radionoise.com <- Rock star by night
> www.burchinteractive.com <- Tech-nerd by day #;-)
>
>
>
> On Dec 30, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Andy & Shannon Skaggs wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> I certainly didn't mean to suggest that a person can sound like any
> other
> player by changing equipment, nor did I get that impression from the
> other
> posters in this thread.  I was simply responding to the original
> questioner
> regarding what horn Frank used.  I don't know if it was your
> intention, but
> the tone of your email struck me as, well, irksome.  If I'm
> misreading, then
> I apologize.  Maybe I'm just being overly sensitive.
>
> Anyway, back to trombone talk, and everyone have a prosperous and
> happy new
> year!
>
> - Andy
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dick Sleeman" <dick at sleeman.nl>
> To: "Trombone-List" <trombone-l at samford.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Listening to Frank...
>
>
> > Andy wrote:
> >
> >> Frank was the man!  As far as I know, he played a Conn 6H with an
> >> 11C.  I
> >> could be wrong about the mouthpiece -- anybody know for sure?  He was
> >> definitely a 6H guy, though.  Happy listening...
> >
> > and Bob wrote:
> >
> >> The original 'Rosolino 1' is a ~15C.
> >> Terry later extrapolated this into a ~12C and ~11C versions, noted as
> >> Rosolino 2 & 3, respectively. I have a Rosolino 2 for sale  if
> >> anyone is
> >> interested...
> >
> > and Daryl wrote:
> >
> >> Can anybody tell me what model horn Frank liked?
> >>
> >> What mouthpiece?
> >
> > Sometimes I wonder if there REALLY are people out there who REALLY
> > think
> > they
> > will sound like and play like a famous musician, once they use the
> > same
> > equipment....
> >
> > Daryl wrote also:
> >
> >> How'd he get such a strong, biting sound in the upper register like
> >> that? (His high F could peel back your rug!)
> >
> > In discussions like this I almost never see the name of ABE LINCOLN
> > (NOT
> > the
> > president). His high F sends shivers down my spine! In case you never
> > heard of
> > him - hardly imaginable - try to listen to records of The Rampart
> > Street
> > Paraders, Bobby Hackett, Pete Fountain and the Eddy Condon 'gang',
> > or go
> > to:
> >
> > http://wwwold.riverwalkjazz.org/profiles/lincoln.htm
> >
> > http://www.trombonesonline.com/artist-trombone/abelincoln.htm
> >
> > Happy New Year!
> >
> > Dick Sleeman
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