[Trombone-l] Bach Liberty?

[Ray Horton]

I have a student with an Omega, about a year & 1/2 old, that looks 
nearly identical to a 42B.   We compared it to a 42B, side-by-side .  8 
1/2 bell, everything else almost the same.  I'd have to compare again to 
say about chrome trim, etc. Sound was close, but not quite the weight 
and quality of the 42B.


RBH


Dr Dennis L. Clason wrote:
> Sue,
>
> Little known but fun fact to know and tell.  The Bach 36 and Bach 42 
> bells apparently differ only in the final diameter.  I was fooling 
> around one day and discovered that the 42 and 36 tuning slides are 
> interchangeable.   I did a little more measuring, and it appears that 
> the only difference is in the final diameter.
>
> I was told that the Omega bells are built on the 36/42 mandrels.  
>
> I discovered some other stuff, too.  Model 12, 16, 16M and 36 slides 
> are all interchangeable, but you don't want to put the small slides on 
> a 36 bell.  Model 42 and 50 slides are interchangeable (I assume that 
> the model 45 is, too, but I don't have one to check.) 
>
> So I don't think that the bell is the reason the Liberty (a recycled 
> King name -- weird) plays a little tighter.  Did you put a caliper on 
> the slide tubes?
>
> Dennis 
>
> Elliott Moxley wrote:
>
>
>   
>> One of my students is playing on a Bach Liberty, which I picked up off 
>>     
> ebay
>   
>> a while back. It has a .547 bore, and the slide, as far as I can tell, 
>>     
> is
>   
>> identical to a 42 regular weight, but is not marked as such. I had it
>> side-by-side with one of ours. The bell is an 8" two-piece, I couldn't 
>>     
> help
>   
>> but wonder if it is a re-stamped Omega bell. The valve section/tuning 
>>     
> slide
>   
>> (open wrap) was similar to a 42, the only obvious difference being brass
>> where the Strads have chrome trim. It is a decent playing horn, close 
>>     
> to a
>   
>> 42 IMO but with a tighter feel, probably because of the smaller bell. I
>> wouldn't suggest a new one to one of my students, however, you could 
>>     
> easily
>   
>> pick up a near-new 42B and save $500, and have a pro instrument that 
>>     
> will
>   
>> hold it's value. I nearly "stole" the Liberty on ebay, it was basically 
>>     
> a
>   
>> new instrument but I was the only bidder, probably because no one knew 
>>     
> what
>   
>> it was. (neither did I, I just took a chance on it!) 
>>
>> - Sue 
>>     
>
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