[Trombone-l] 57 and Thinking About My First Double-RotorBassTrombone

[Fred Hudson]

Happy Birthday Phil and Many Happy returns

At 73 my mantra differs slightly from Bill's:

"Age" is just a record of the passage of time - "Old" is a state of mind!

Fred H

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Dinwiddie" <billdin at comcast.net>
To: "Philip Brink" <basstrb3 at gmail.com>
Cc: "List Trombone" <TROMBONE-L at server5.samford.edu>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] 57 and Thinking About My First 
Double-RotorBassTrombone


> Hey Phil,
>
> "Happy Birthday to You", etc. Hope you are doing well. And remember, age 
> is
> only a state of mind....what mind?
>
> Bill Dinwiddie
> billdin at comcast.net
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Philip Brink" <basstrb3 at gmail.com>
> To: "Earl Needham" <needhame1 at plateautel.net>
> Cc: <trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] 57 and Thinking About My First Double-Rotor
> BassTrombone
>
>
>> HEY YOU YOUNG PERSONS! 57 old? Don't believe it - I turn 62 tomorrow and 
>> I
>> feel very young... almost childlike! Oops - maybe that means something
>> else!
>> Or... it's the warm Thai air! ;-)
>>
>> Phil Brink
>>
>>
>> On 8/20/07, Earl Needham <needhame1 at plateautel.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> At 09:56 PM 8/19/2007, Eric & Candice Swanson wrote:
>>> >If you like the 72H (once you get your problems worked out) you could
>>> >add a second valve to it.  That would be far less than a new horn.  You
>>> >could even put Thayer valves on the 72H and come out many hundreds less
>>> >than any new horn.
>>>
>>>         This might be the best idea on the list!  I mean, the old
>>> Conn sound with a new set of valves!
>>>
>>>         I played a Conn Bass Trombone for a short time in college
>>> (1974-ish), I'm trying to remember the model number -- it had
>>> dependant valves, maybe 72H?  Not sure --
>>>
>>>         Anyway, when using either valve, or both valves, it was
>>> stuffy as H$%^!  I mean, it was so bad it felt like someone had
>>> stuffed the bell full of cotton every time I used a valve.  Seems to
>>> me that a set of Thayer valves would probably open up a horn like
>>> that.  An open wrap couldn't hurt, either.
>>>
>>>         That being said, let me dissuade you from one of your
>>> initial statements -- not all double-valve horns are stuffy.  The
>>> 1062's get high marks in this regard, and I'll put my old Duo Gravis
>>> up against just about anything, for being free-blowing and open with
>>> the valves.  Of course, the Duo Gravis is a bit brighter than most,
>>> but the general idea is that two valves don't necessarily indicate a
>>> stuffy horn.
>>>
>>>         I personally have never cared for the Bach "sound", but
>>> there has to be a reason they seem to be the standard around the
>>> world.  I seriously doubt they could sell more than a few of the Bach
>>> 50's if they were stuffy.  Most people just won't put up with a horn
>>> that's not comfortable to play if there's something better (read that
>>> more comfortable and MORE FUN) available.
>>>
>>>         Tom, two things -- first, go to a convention, or maybe a
>>> store with a lot of different models, and give a bunch of them a test
>>> blow.  You might find something you like!
>>>
>>>         Second, 57 better not be old!  I'm right behind you and I
>>> DON'T WANNA BE OLD!!!
>>>
>>>         Earl
>>>
>>> KD5XB -- Earl Needham
>>> Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
>>> Quoting from the Coast Guard: ZUT
>>>
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