[Trombone-l] 57 and Thinking About My First Double-Rotor BassTrombone

[Bill Dinwiddie]

Hey Phil,

"Happy Birthday to You", etc. Hope you are doing well. And remember, age is 
only a state of mind....what mind?

Bill Dinwiddie
billdin at comcast.net



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philip Brink" <basstrb3 at gmail.com>
To: "Earl Needham" <needhame1 at plateautel.net>
Cc: <trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] 57 and Thinking About My First Double-Rotor 
BassTrombone


> HEY YOU YOUNG PERSONS! 57 old? Don't believe it - I turn 62 tomorrow and I
> feel very young... almost childlike! Oops - maybe that means something 
> else!
> Or... it's the warm Thai air! ;-)
>
> Phil Brink
>
>
> On 8/20/07, Earl Needham <needhame1 at plateautel.net> wrote:
>>
>> At 09:56 PM 8/19/2007, Eric & Candice Swanson wrote:
>> >If you like the 72H (once you get your problems worked out) you could
>> >add a second valve to it.  That would be far less than a new horn.  You
>> >could even put Thayer valves on the 72H and come out many hundreds less
>> >than any new horn.
>>
>>         This might be the best idea on the list!  I mean, the old
>> Conn sound with a new set of valves!
>>
>>         I played a Conn Bass Trombone for a short time in college
>> (1974-ish), I'm trying to remember the model number -- it had
>> dependant valves, maybe 72H?  Not sure --
>>
>>         Anyway, when using either valve, or both valves, it was
>> stuffy as H$%^!  I mean, it was so bad it felt like someone had
>> stuffed the bell full of cotton every time I used a valve.  Seems to
>> me that a set of Thayer valves would probably open up a horn like
>> that.  An open wrap couldn't hurt, either.
>>
>>         That being said, let me dissuade you from one of your
>> initial statements -- not all double-valve horns are stuffy.  The
>> 1062's get high marks in this regard, and I'll put my old Duo Gravis
>> up against just about anything, for being free-blowing and open with
>> the valves.  Of course, the Duo Gravis is a bit brighter than most,
>> but the general idea is that two valves don't necessarily indicate a
>> stuffy horn.
>>
>>         I personally have never cared for the Bach "sound", but
>> there has to be a reason they seem to be the standard around the
>> world.  I seriously doubt they could sell more than a few of the Bach
>> 50's if they were stuffy.  Most people just won't put up with a horn
>> that's not comfortable to play if there's something better (read that
>> more comfortable and MORE FUN) available.
>>
>>         Tom, two things -- first, go to a convention, or maybe a
>> store with a lot of different models, and give a bunch of them a test
>> blow.  You might find something you like!
>>
>>         Second, 57 better not be old!  I'm right behind you and I
>> DON'T WANNA BE OLD!!!
>>
>>         Earl
>>
>> KD5XB -- Earl Needham
>> Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
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>> Quoting from the Coast Guard: ZUT
>>
>>
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