[Trombone-l] Bartok gliss question revisited

[thetubameister@adelphia.net]

I think it's the Mandarin...

J.c.S.

---- Keith Marr <Mail at gothicway.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: 
> There is a movement (think it's the second) called the Interrupted 
> Intermezzo, which is going along blithely until Bartok suddenly changes the 
> whole mood for a few minutes, poking fun at Lehar's Merry Widow and 
> Shostakovitch's 7th Symphony, which were both very popular at a time when 
> Bartok's music was viewed as "too modern" in some circles.
> 
> There are two glissandi, one from low B up to F in the 3rd part and one from 
> low E up to Bb in the 2nd part.
> 
> I've only played the piece once and was most disappointed at how little of 
> interest there is in the 3rd trombone, apart from that little 15 seconds of 
> fame. I can't imagine it being very effective on anything other than the 
> original F trombone (Doug Yeo has one made for him by Yamaha!) or the Thein 
> "Bartok" trombone (buy a trombone to play just one piece?) or a Bb/F/E 
> trombone. I was playing a Holton TR181 at the time and was able to remove 
> the Gb extension from the second valve at the end of the first movement, 
> play the low B on two valves and release the second valve in the course of 
> the glissando. There's plenty of time to replace the Gb extension again for 
> the rest of the piece. The gliss happens so quickly that I doubt if anyone 
> would be able to discern any beak in the glissando when you release the 
> second valve.
> 
> Interestingly enough it occurs to me that my Rath Bb/F/D would not make such 
> a good job of this because I haven't got any means to reducing the length of 
> tubing on the second valve. Fingers crossed I don't need to bother playing 
> the piece again, it was pretty boring to sit counting rests through anyway.
> 
> It sticks in my mind that Bartok writes the same glissando for bass trombone 
> in either Bluebeard's Castle or The Miraculous Mandarin, I can't remember 
> which. So maybe the Thein is a good buy after all - you could use it for two 
> pieces! :-)
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Keith in Bb/F/D
> Bass Trombone
> St Albans Symphony Orchestra
> North Herts Big Band
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "d.sleeman" <d.sleeman at hccnet.nl>
> To: "Trombone-List" <TROMBONE-L at server5.samford.edu>
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:35 AM
> Subject: [Trombone-l] Bartok gliss question revisited
> 
> 
> > Listmates, I wrote:
> >
> >> Bartok's CfO has never been on my reading-desk so I got rather 
> >> interested. Could somebody please tell me in which part this gliss 
> >> occurs?
> >
> > Due to the fact that English is not my mother tongue, it might not be very 
> > clear what I meant. I meant in which MOVEMENT the gliss occurs :-)
> >
> > Dick Sleeman
> >
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