[Trombone-l] Bartok Gliss

[Dennis Clason]

Yeah, what Andy said.

In the context of the piece, it's supposed to be Bartok blowing his nose 
at the critics.

Sounding nasty is part of the deal.  In fact, the only time I did the 
Concerto, the conductor told us not to obsess about it, just make it work.

Dennis

Andy/Shannon Skaggs wrote:
> The only problem with that is that flat 7 with the F trigger depressed
> is C, not B.  Raymond Horton's way works well, but I appreciate the
> comment made by the person who said it's difficult to play while someone
> else is messing with your tuning slide.  For my money, given the choice
> between a good solid (in tune) B, with a break in the middle of the
> gliss, and a squirrely, lipped-down B in 7th (with no break in the
> gliss), I'd prefer the former every time.  I did this piece recently (on
> 2nd, not bass), and the conductor wanted us to really nail the lowest
> note with good sound and volume.  In this particular case the gliss
> itself was rather incidental in comparison with the low E and low B.
> The bass trombonist broke the gliss and it sounded just fine.  It
> obviously would have been better on an F bass, but...
>
> Keep in mind that in the context of this magnificent work, this is a bit
> of comic relief.  I would have a couple of different versions of the
> gliss ready to go before rehearsal in case the conductor asks you to try
> it another way, but I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.  In my
> experience this is one of those things that we trombonists obsess over,
> and most conductors seem not to notice or care one way or the other.
> Others have had different experiences I'm sure.
>
> - Andy
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trombone-l-bounces at server5.samford.edu
> [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at server5.samford.edu] On Behalf Of
> jkbone5723 at cox.net
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:10 PM
> To: trombone-l at server5.samford.edu; james meador
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Bartok Gliss
>
> The way I see it, is there is no real trick. If you have a trigger, you
> should just play it flat 7 to 1 with trigger pressed. B to F. The second
> bone part is E to Bb so that 7-1. 
>
> That's all I got on that one. 
>
> Josh Kane
>
>
> ---- james meador <jamesmeador at hotmail.com> wrote: 
>   
>> Getting ready to play Concerto for Orchestra in a few weeks, and since
>>     
> there 
>   
>> is all this talk about the gliss I'm just wandering what your 'special
>>     
>
>   
>> techniques' are for playing the thing.  Luckily I have a flat E pull
>>     
> on my 
>   
>> Bach so I will be able to rig something up, but I am just curious as
>>     
> to what 
>   
>> trick you guys use.
>>
>> James
>>
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