[Trombone-l] Bartok Gliss BEST WAY

[Raymond Horton]

I know this sounds snobby, but all of the other suggestions come from 
people who haven't tried my way. 


I know, because I've tried them _all_, except for the toe-ring and the 
sacbut.  (I loved Mr Haney, but I 'd rather have another guy do the 
tuning slide and let me concentrate on playing.) 


I even still have some custom slides in the other room, for tuning my 
two valves to Eb and F, to play each note on a single valve to get the 
longest possible gliss. 


The SF way beats all of them.  A big single valve note that has a true 
gliss all the way up beats fake notes,, beats switching valves, beats 
lipping. 


Try it before you recommend something different.  If you don't have a 
flat E pull, then I refer you to our earlier discussion - just get one.  
You'll find yourself using it now and then.


RBH


Dennis Clason wrote:
> And then there's the Van Haney way.  Slick up the E-pull, and tie a 
> length of dental floss to it and a ring.  Pull the slide, slip the ring 
> over your left big toe, and pull the slide closed with your foot while 
> you move the hand-slide in.
>
> It requires that you wear slip-on shoes to the performance, and having 
> your foot well washed and powdered is probably a polite idea, too.
>
> But it works.
>
> Another way is to have a flat-E tuning on the second valve.  Hit the B, 
> do the first piece of the gliss with half-valving, then pull the slide 
> closed when you're on the F-side exclusively.  Of course, how many of us 
> have flat-E tunings?  I thought so...
>
> Dennis
>
> Raymond Horton wrote:
>   
>> (Sorry I put first reply off - busy week here.) 
>>
>> I've posted this here before but it got no reaction.  This is the 
>> absolute BEST way to play the Bartok _Concerto for Orchestra_ Bass 
>> Trombone glissando without using an F bass trombone. 
>>
>> I believe that this comes via San Francisco, from our great tubist, 
>> Daryll Johnson, who had subbed there. 
>>
>> Grease your flat E pull extra slick (try Vaseline with a drop of valve 
>> oil on top).  You will need a cooperative tubist, and some practice with 
>> him/her.  (Tubist has to do this with tuba propped on his legs, ready to 
>> play , because he has to come in only a few bars later.)   Start with 
>> valve in flat E.  Tubist (sitting on your left) holds his two hands in 
>> place, ready to push your slide back in _during the glissando_.  Sounds 
>> crazy, but you won't believe how great this works.  The first time we 
>> did this, I laughed out loud, it was so good! 
>>
>> Try it - you'll never do it any other way again.  
>>
>>
>> Raymond Horton
>> Bass Trombonist
>> Louisville Orchestra
>>
>>
>> james meador wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Getting ready to play Concerto for Orchestra in a few weeks, and since 
>>> there is all this talk about the gliss I'm just wandering what your 
>>> 'special techniques' are for playing the thing.  Luckily I have a flat 
>>> E pull on my Bach so I will be able to rig something up, but I am just 
>>> curious as to what trick you guys use.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> ======================
>>> James N. Meador, Bass Trombone
>>> Orquesta Sinfónica de Yucatán
>>> +52-999-221-5845 cell
>>> +52-999-195-1144 home
>>> jamesmeador at hotmail.com
>>>
>>>     
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