[Trombone-l] Martin Committee model

Sat Sep 30 12:07:28 CDT 2006

Since I like the small bores for what I do and this Committee model was
highly recommended I picked one up some time ago. I took it seriously for a
short time, and liked its dark tone, but did not stay with it very long. I
prefer the slightly brighter tone of a II-B. It is by far the most popular
small bore, and in this case I think reflects the quality of the instrument.
Dan Bartlett is a fine artist who uses an old Committee model that he had
fixed up. He heads up a group in California called BED.

Richard Corliss

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Tune" <crtune at adelphia.net>
To: "Chris Tune" <crtune at adelphia.net>; "Stan Brager"
<sbrager at socal.rr.com>; <thetubameister at adelphia.net>
Cc: "Trombone-L" <TROMBONE-L at server5.samford.edu>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Martin Committee model

> Notice to the LIST:
>
> How many of you have spent serious time playing a Martin Committee model?
>
> I"ve just gotten my slide back from Chris Gonzales, and it is beautiful.
> So, now I've got a very good 1950's vintage Committee Model to fool with.
> It is like the horn I started on (Conn 4H) a .484 or .485 bore horn.  A
> "peashooter".  Nice thing, you can do almost anything you want on this
> thing. . .
>
> I got this thing because I heard Hal Diner say that he really regretted
> having sold his Martin Committee. He also told me a story about Milt
> Bernhart having one that he was goofing around with (swapping slides and
> leadpipes and so forth).  They are very well made small bore horns from
the
> 1950's . The design looks very much like the "Urbie Green" horn that is
> still sold. . but it has a very small bell and is clearly a small bore
horn.
> But then, I LIKE SMALL BORE. . .why not?  You have to practice scales and
> patterns and all that,  why not have a horn that wants to do that?   Well,
> you may not fill up an Orchestra Hall. . .well. . .duh!
>
> I'd get an 88H if I was trying to "Blastissimo" and Orchestra Hall. . .or
> maybe a Bach 42B. . .
>
> But, if I want to do jazz or dixie or casuals, this seems to me, to be
> pretty damn good.
>
> It has a reasonably dark tone on everything, (considering it's dimensions)
> and is very easy to get notes out of.   I could see playing extensively on
> this horn. . .
>
> I'd love to hear any stories anybody has about these very old horns.
> [trumpeters swear by the "Committee". . .this was Dizzy's horn. . .]
>
> Chris Tune
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Tune" <crtune at adelphia.net>
> To: "Stan Brager" <sbrager at socal.rr.com>; <thetubameister at adelphia.net>
> Cc: "Trombone-L" <TROMBONE-L at server5.SAMFORD.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Dark Stuff
>
>
> > Once a week?
> >
> > I missed that on the first pass. . .
> >
> > I'm not sure I can say that I do anything, except eat and sleep. . .ONCE
A
> > WEEK. . . well. . . .anything "mentionable".
> >
> > CLEANING:
> > Have I told the story about Lloyd Ulyate?
> >
> > Lloyd showed up at Bruce Belo's (master repair person. . .) with his
Bach
> > 8
> > or 6.  He said:
> >
> > "I don't know what's wrong with this thing.  I've never had any trouble
> > with
> > intonation, and now, I'm out of tune.. .it's really terrible"
> >
> > Belo did what he always does:  "clean out the tubes".  He looked into
the
> > tubes to see what he was cleaning out.  No LIGHT.  Held up to the light,
> > the
> > tubes were black as the BLACK HOLE OF CALCUTTA.
> >
> > OK.
> >
> > A quick rinse out under the fawcet and he had relatively clean tubes.
You
> > can imagine the amount of whatever this YUCK is running down his
> > industrial
> > sink drain.
> >
> > [Belo has the right kinda shop "set up".  He's got an excellent shop,
with
> > every tool and all the typical useful things. . .Bruce repairs all the
> > broken stuff for the entire Anaheim, CA school district.  I'm sure I saw
a
> > typical utility sink in there. ]
> >
> > He gave the horn back to Lloyd and said"  Here. . .see if that did
> > anything.
> > "
> >
> > Lloyd played (I'm sure something gorgeous. . .)
> >
> > He was amazed.  ". . .What ?"
> >
> > BELO:  "When did you last clean out this horn?"
> >
> > ULYATE:" Gosh. . .I dunno. . .it coulda been a looooong time. . .
> >
> > BELO" Really. . .when do you think you cleaned it out last time?"
> >
> > ULYATE" Maybe in the 1960's. . . .it mighta even been in the 1950's
> > sometime. . .
> >
> > [this is doubtlessly in the 1980's or 1990's. . .that is when Bruce
really
> > got going out here).
> >
> > Bruce still remembers this like it was yesterday.
> >
> > :0
> >
> > I clean my horn out much more often than this. . .maybe once a year.
> > OK,
> > sometimes even twice a year if I've been a bad boy and played right
after
> > eating a bit.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Stan Brager" <sbrager at socal.rr.com>
> > To: "Chris Tune" <crtune at adelphia.net>; <thetubameister at adelphia.net>
> > Cc: "Trombone-L" <TROMBONE-L at server5.SAMFORD.EDU>
> > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Dark Stuff
> >
> >
> >> Chris;
> >>
> >> I thought algae required light in order to propagate. In any event, I
> >> find
> >> it only when I forget to clean the slides on a regular basis - about
once
> >> a
> >> week.
> >>
> >> Stan
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Chris Tune" <crtune at adelphia.net>
> >> To: <thetubameister at adelphia.net>; "Stan Brager" <sbrager at socal.rr.com>
> >> Cc: "Trombone-L" <TROMBONE-L at server5.SAMFORD.EDU>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:00 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Dark Stuff
> >>
> >>
> >>> It 's gotta be organic.  Whether green, light green or whatever
probably
> >> has
> >>> to do with oxidation (rusting) in the brass on the inside of the
tubing.
> >>> Algae may very well be what this stuff is primarily.    It seems to
grow
> >> in
> >>> there even if you are very careful to not eat and play your horn.
Then
> >>> there is me--I just DON'T CARE.  And I get a pretty outstanding bunch
of
> >>> this YUCK each time I clean.
> >>>
> >>> YUCK.  That is what I'd call it.  Really seems to suit the stuff.
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: <thetubameister at adelphia.net>
> >>> To: "Stan Brager" <sbrager at socal.rr.com>
> >>> Cc: "Trombone-L" <TROMBONE-L at server5.SAMFORD.EDU>
> >>> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 5:45 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Dark Stuff
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > "Trombone Yogurt"
> >>> >
> >>> > J.c.S.
> >>> > ---- Stan Brager <sbrager at socal.rr.com> wrote:
> >>> >> As I was cleaning my horn this morning, I pondered about the dark
> >>> >> stuff
> >>> >> which came out of the end of the tubes. Since there's not much talk
> >> about
> >>> >> it, the dark stuff is probably not damaging to the lungs. But what
is
> >> it
> >>> >> exactly? Is it a fungus? or a colony of bacteria? is it the "dark
> >> matter"
> >>> >> between the stars? or something else?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Is there any scientific knowledge about the dark stuff?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks;
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Stan
> >>> >> Stan "it hasn't killed me yet" Brager
> >>> >> Trombonist-in-Training
> >>> >>
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