[Trombone-l] Album you should get.

[Chris Tune]

I just got an album that I think is truly exceptional.  It is is and old one 
(from 1958. . .year I was born).  Bill Holman's "Big Band in a JAZZ ORBIT". 
. .could also be called "Bill Holman arranges and conducts a presentation of 
BIG BAND JAZZ in a JAZZ ORBIT."

The band is great.  These are classic Holman arrangements in STEREO 
(recorded in Feb. 1958--Eng. "Bones" Howe at Radio Recorders in Hollywood).
The band:

Trumpets
Al Porcino
Ed Leddy
Jack Sheldon
Conte Candoli (replaced on some tunes by Stu Williamson)

Trombones
Frank Rosolino
Carl Fontana
Ray Sims

Saxes
Charlie Mariano
Herb Geller
Richie Kamuca
Charlie Kennedy
Bill Hood (and, of course Holman himself).

Piano
Vic Feldman

Bass
Buddy Clark

Drums
Mel Lewis

Too bad they couldn't get anybody GOOD for this session!!  :-)   Tunes: 
"Kissin' Bug"  "The Man I Love", "Goodbye" (the Goodman thing) "You Go To My 
Head" "After You've Gone" and Holman

Frank and Carl and Ray each have solos.  Sims is playing, I believe, a Bass 
Trumpet (it's definitely valved. . .I think I've seen him on bass tpt). 
Everything is simply great.  The arrangements, the playing. .the sound. 
This recording is available on V.S.O.P. #25CD (aka Andex A 3004). Once 
again, everything about this album is just STUNNING.  It is great!

I guess you can tell I like it.

Chris Tune

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <thetubameister at adelphia.net>
To: "Raymond Horton" <rayhorton at insightbb.com>
Cc: "TromboneL Trombone" <TROMBONE-L at server5.samford.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Cimbasso or tuba?


> Conn made the 90G, which was an 88H bell attached to a .562 euph valve 
> section with guts to tie them together.  The one I tried worked quite 
> well, as did the King 5B/.562 valve second version of the trombonium, 
> which was it's competitor.  Olds also made one based on the Opera.
>
> However, while I know some would feel uncomfortable on small bore 
> instruments, I think the small bore of the valve trombones would be 70% of 
> the point.  Small bores have their place, and their sound, and it just 
> might be a better idea for Italian Opera.  Tough to find out, though.
>
> J.c.S.
>
>
> ---- Raymond Horton <rayhorton at insightbb.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for posting that, Walter.  That paper looks like an excellent
>> contribution to the discussion.
>>
>>
>> On the other, related subject of instruments for the Italian opera:
>> When the subject of valve trombones has come up, we immediately come
>> back to bore size.  Symphony players often do not feel comfortable
>> playing the valve trombones that are currently available because of the
>> small bore.
>>
>>
>> I once tried a (no-longer-available) Conn valve instrument that had the
>> 8H bell soldered on it (looked like an alto horn - I forget - is that a
>> flugabone?).  That seemed like it would be an excellent choice for a
>> symphonic valve trombone, if it were available.
>>
>>
>> Another possibility might be a marching euphonium or marching baritone.
>> The former, which I have tried, may be too broad sounding, but I haven't
>> tried the latter.
>>
>>
>> Back in 1977 Per Brevig, then co-principal with the Met, told me that
>> when Met conductors requested valve trombones the section played BASS
>> TRUMPETS!  That is hard to imagine.
>>
>>
>> Anyone had experience with valve trombones or other beasts in opera?
>>
>>
>> Raymond Horton
>> Louisville Orchestra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Walter Barrett wrote:
>>
>> >On Sep 11, 2006, at 5:36 PM, d. sleeman wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>Listmates,
>> >>
>> >>I have been asked to play the tuba part in Verdi's opera I Lombardi.
>> >>
>> >>Shouldn't that be a (contra)bass trombone or a cimbasso instead?
>> >>
>> >>Regards,
>> >>
>> >>Dick Sleeman, Lelystad, Holland. <d.sleeman at hccnet.nl>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >According to James Gourlay's excellent paper on the use of Cimbasso
>> >in Verdi, the instrument most likely used in 1843 in La Scala would
>> >have been ophicleide, so whatever gets you closest to that. Small F
>> >tuba, cimbasso, even a euphonium can work.
>> >
>> >
>> >Walter Barrett
>> >
>> >"so does the sound exist somewhere in your head
>> >and you try to find a brass funnel that fits ???
>> >OR do you fit your head into the brass funnel
>> >????????????? "
>> > -DJ Kennedy
>> >
>> >Alto, tenor, bass trombones
>> >Bass trumpet, euphonium, tuba
>> >Yamaha Artist/Clinician
>> >http://www.walterbarrett.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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