[Trombone-l] Copy protection/DRM was Re: Bill Holman - In a jazz Orbit

[Chris Tune]

Of course you are totally correct.  I'd add that it is absolutely essential to NOT buy anything you know to be the result of commercial copying.   Also, despite the most extensive efforts of copy protection advocates.  Those involved in commercial theft will invariably be able to marshall sufficient electronic gear to create a copy of some sort. I think this philosophy of mine applies to crime in general.  The most effective elimination of crime happens when vast numbers of people simply stop patronizing the criminals. 

I'm doing a "Guys and Dolls" right now. . .and I think about the current state of things.  Since the patrons of gambling (not me. . .NO WAY!) now can easily go to Atlantic City or Vegas, there is much less illegal gambling and loan sharking (a related thing) in say NYC, when counted per capita, than back in say 1935, when the audience for illegal gambling was there.

I don't know what to do about third world patrons of crime, except to help bring the "third world" out of the darkness. 

Chris

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: SteveInside at aol.com 
  To: jeffalbert.smb at gmail.com ; crtune at adelphia.net 
  Cc: trombone-l at server5.samford.edu 
  Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Copy protection/DRM was Re: Bill Holman - In a jazz Orbit


  I'd go so far as to say that (private, as opposed to commercial) copying is possibly an important part of building a listening audience and the copy protectors are shooting themselves in the foot — which I guess is a lot of what Jeff is saying.

  Some of my friends and I myself have copied stuff since we were kids; and those that copied the most are the ones with 600 or 1000 legitimate CDs and LPs in their house.  Importantly, we're also the ones that go to gigs and listen, go to local venues and listen and sometimes play ourselves.  In the late 20th century and definitely now, the ones that copy are the ones that are interested.

  Commercial copying is a whole other ball game and nobody I know thinks it's cool as, apart from anything else, the quality is usually atrocious and that is probably because the focus is the money and not the music or the consumer.

  Hey ho
  Steve C
  UK

  In a message dated 02/10/2006 19:31:50 GMT Standard Time, jeffalbert.smb at gmail.com writes:
    Which just goes to show that all of the copy protection or digital rights
    managements schemes in the world can't stop copying.

    If you can make it come out of speakers you can copy it.

    When are record labels going to realize that selling products that do less
    than the consumer expects is not a way to grow customer loyalty?

    That is why supporting artists and labels that sell legal drm free downloads
    and non-drm ed CDs is important.

    Jeff