[Trombone-l] Pomerov hoping to change this to "more Martin Committe"

Chris Tune crtune at adelphia.net
Wed Oct 4 12:22:53 CDT 2006


I sure wish there was a "RETRACT" button

 I know you try to hold yourself to a high standard.  A reread of your post 
makes me believe that. "I can see how you might wonder why D's are treated 
differently. . ."  I appreciate the candor and I think there is something to 
this hypothesis.  Naturally, we all hate hypocrisy on either side of the 
aisle. As I said (for hopefully the absolute last time. . .since I've raised 
the issue of departing from the List mission)  I just am bugged at the 
biggie news funnels.

MARTIN axe
Did I mention that I've gotten the Martin Committe back? Chris Gonzales did 
a great job on the slide.   I think I did mention.

I've had a chance to practice a bit on it.  It ireally is an amazing horn. 
I don't think the 1st postion notes that you might normally expect to play 
above middle C really work.  D and F don't really play high enough.  I have 
to use  flat 4th and sharp 4th.  Even middle Bb isn't high enough.  Better 
to use sharp 5th position.

Today I am going to use a tuner and play around.

The design philosophy of this horn may have been:  Lets make the low 
register in tune and  the high register a bit flat.  That will force players 
to not use first position.  Also, the bell is not exactly where third 
position is.  Thus, the player is discouraged from using fingers to "feel 
third".  A good idea.  I can play the horn.  But I play it jazz style, with 
lots of movement from third to fifth.  Very little movement to first 
(generally if I have a middle F to play or a low Bb).

Does anybody know if this was intentional?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Tune" <crtune at adelphia.net>
To: "George Carr" <georgecarr at gmail.com>
Cc: <TROMBONE-L at server5.samford.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Pomerov


> I'm sorry list--It looks like my felllow TROMBONISTS don't want to get 
> back
> to practicing or studying the horn.   Oh well, since someone seems to be
> accusing me, I guess I've got to respond.
>
> WHAT I MEAN:
> My philosophy would be equal treatment for equal infractions.  So the
> journalist is right and proper in pointing out the wronfulness and 
> hypocrisy
> in the current scenario--Foley likely will be arrested and tried and THAT 
> IS
> FINE.  And indeed, that person has resigned in discrace already (just like
> Packwood). . .that is not what is done when similar things happen on the
> other side of the isle.  Look at Barney Frank for example.
>
> I then feel that the same journalistic community has not sufficiently 
> called
> for the resignation of those like Frank, who work on the D side.  Lets 
> see,
> we have a person who was allowed to go scot free on a Negligent Homicide/
> Manslaughter charge way back when. That person is now considered a
> philosophical leader of the party.  We have a man who allowed (he has
> admitted he knew. . .) a gay-sex prosti ring to function out of his
> apartments.  And there are others.  The only Dem I can think of that had 
> to
> resign in shame was the Dan Rostenkowski from Illinois who looted the 
> House
> stamp fund.   Also, DNC chair Terry McAuliffe was caught in a stock scheme
> with "Global Crossing" and the news was effectively "blacked out" . . .of
> course the possible wrongdoing occurred before he became DNC chair. . .but
> SO WHAT?  He got "immunized" by his later position.  THAT's the point.
>
> The journalistic community needs to do what they say they do, and what the
> role is intended to. They need to investigate.  Regardless of who they are
> investigating. Regardless of what the subject's politics are.  Now, at the
> local level and in magazines, there ARE fantastic journalists who do this
> all the time--I read their articles--I read their books.  My problem is
> mainly with the editors of NATIONAL (or primary) news outlets, like CNN, 
> the
> Post, The Times, Reuters, AP and so forth.  They edit this stuff so that
> flames of R guys just will not quit (example "deep six" Bob Woodward
> admitting that Valerie Plame and CIA operations had not been compromised 
> in
> any way whatsoever. . .did that get on CNN?).  In our world the D dirt is
> allowed to slip into oblivion as soon as possible.
>
> Once again.  There ARE fantastic journalists they just aren't running CBS
> news. . .CNN . . .or the like. I stand by my position.  You've said 
> nothing
> to convince me otherwise.  I have my OWN TWO EYES.  and my own two ears.
>
> Also, you have not dealt at all with Koz.  Does he, or does he not ignore
> the fact that the French are not puppets of the Americans.  Why?   Isn't
> this just hyperbole?  Of course it is. . . .Don't you want to hold 
> yourself
> to the same standard you hold me??
>
> Chris
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "George Carr" <georgecarr at gmail.com>
> To: "Chris Tune" <crtune at adelphia.net>
> Cc: "Matthew Stoecker" <the_mighty_quinn at msn.com>;
> <daniel_pliskin at hotmail.com>; <TROMBONE-L at server5.samford.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 5:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Pomerov
>
>
>>> I think we know that this is being trumpeted (still on the FRENCH
>>> guards?)
>>> out there, not by the R people. . .but "Rather" by the D people that are
>>> sometimes laughingly called journalists. . . even small children can
>>> figure
>>> this out.
>>
>> So if a D person who happens to be a journalist decides to point out
>> the hypocrisy between chairing the committee on Children's Issues for
>> the entire country, and that same person seeking inappropriate
>> relationships with children, and then asking the person in charge of
>> committee appointments whether it was a wise committee appointment,
>> given his knowledge about the situation, that's biased journalism?
>> And if an R person who happens to be a journalist reported the same
>> story and asked the same questions, would you call them a fake R
>> person, or a bad journalist, or both?
>>
>> I can see how you might wonder why Ds are treated differently than Rs,
>> but that seems due in large part to Ds running on different platforms
>> from Rs.  Like "family values," which Rs often claim as exclusive
>> territory.  So when an R violates 'family values,' his fellow Rs have
>> to make sure they punish him in accordance with their campaign
>> promises.
>>
>> George
>
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