[Trombone-l] Valery Ponomarev

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Senator Hoyt S. Vandenberg decried the institution of Withholding Tax back in 
the early '40's ... citizens lost control of their pocketbooks then, and when 
that is gone... so is everything else.

beldon wade



In a message dated 10/3/2006 8:26:09 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
Mail at gothicway.fsnet.co.uk writes:
Looking at the Kos article from a British perspective it seems to me to be 
fairly reasonable to see a connection between the ridiculous escalation in 
airport security (my mother wasn't allowed on with lip balm!) worldwide, and 
the Bush administration's reaction to 9/11.

If the USA really wants to continue to be known as the Land of the Free and 
Home of the Brave, then its citizens have to take control of their own lives 
back from their government. We're in the same position here in the UK. Our 
Home Secretary (Minister of the Interior in most country's terminology) is 
certainly talking up the crisis to deprive us of many civil liberties, 
including funnily enough (it got a mention in Kos) Magna Carta. There is a 
phrase in Magna Carta which grants us the right "to a fair trial before our 
peers" or words to that effect.

So I have to say I agree with Sam on this.

Probably best is I go and practice now as I dare say the less tolerant 
members of this list will bombard me for saying all this.

Cheers!

Keith in Bb/F/D
Bass Trombone
St Albans Symphony Orchestra
Page Three Big Band

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "sabutin" <sabutin at mindspring.com>
To: <TROMBONE-L at server5.SAMFORD.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Valery Ponomarev


> It's true.
>
> Every word.
>
> I was there when Valery related it.
>
> As far as "conspiracy" is concerned...read the article again.
>
> All it is saying is that the sad state of freedom in BushAmerica has
> infected the whole world.
>
> No economic imperialism...no 9/11.
>
> No 9/11...no raised security at airports.
>
> No raised security at airports...no problem bringing a trumpet case
> that most CERTAINLY fits in the overheads and was cabin checked
> already (complete with little tag) onto an airplane.
>
> No problem bringing a trumpet case onto an airplane...no Ponomarev broken 
> arm.
>
> Duh.
>
> What is WRONG with you people?
>
> ============================
>
>  I'm gonna go out on a limb and call it BS, mainly because a search
> of cnn.com for +"Valery Ponomarev" +"broken arm" gets no results at all. 
> A
> similar search for +"Valery Ponomarev" also gets on ads.
>
>          After reading the article, it sounds almost like something from
> the National Enquirer.
>
> =============================
>
> Nice, Earl.
>
> Can you still POSSIBLY believe that CNN and the rest of the media
> report the news?
> Let alone ALL of the news? Let alone news about one poor schlump's
> run-in with some French thugs in uniform?
>
> People get their bones broken by uniformed thugs every day of the
> week in every city in the world.
>
> Where have YOU been?
>
>
> S.
>
>
>
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