[Trombone-l] Bill Holman - In a jazz Orbit

[Stan Brager]

Chris;

You might try looking at the forums on the CDFreaks website. If you have to
join, to look at the forum, do so. The site is quite good and I haven't had
any problems since joining several years ago. I searched the website for
"Cactus" and found this solution:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=557687#post557687

If this doesn't work, do another search for "cactus".

Stan
Stan Brager
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Tune" <crtune at adelphia.net>
To: <swan325 at earthlink.net>; <trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Bill Holman - In a jazz Orbit


> I recommended this album, but I need to qualify.  This album appears
> copy-protected with a scheme known as "Cactus".  It is not as bad a deal
as
> the recent scandalous Sony "rootkit" oriented deal.  This one puts errors
> (which appear in audio rips as "spikes" . . .most likely this is how it
got
> the name "cactus" . . .because that is what the waveform looks like. .
> .spiny cactus bodies)
>
> So now I'm going through the analog option.  I wouldn't do this for just
any
> album, but this one is a real gem (see the previous post. . there are
> outstanding solos by Frank Rosolino, Carl Fontana and Ray Sims. .plus Vic
> Feldman, Rich Kamuca, Conte, Jack Sheldon and on, an on).
>
> Odd how this copy protection scheme works.  The error correction on
typical
> Audio CD players eliminates the cactus "spikes" through interpolation of
the
> before and after data (thus, frankly slightly DEGRADING audio quality).
> Your computer drive does not automatically do this.  I see on a forum
called
> "CD Freaks" that there is software which seeks to defeat this kind of
thing.
> I really don't feel like installing yet another bit of software just to
rip
> one CD.
>
> I really am kind of mad that I've paid full money for a CD and then I get
> something I cannot rip to my harddrive.  I  do NOT share audio (via
> bittorrent or otherwise).  I'm not stealing something. . . .I'm BUYING
> something. . . .an audio CD.
>
> I want an up to spec audio cd.  It seems this one has hidden problems.
But
> I'd still highly recommend the musical content.
>
> Chris
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eric & Candice Swanson" <swan325 at earthlink.net>
> To: <trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Old Conns
>
>
> > Elliott Moxley wrote:
> >
> >>Are you sure about Allied? I had a old 78H slide come apart from red
rot.
> >>(I bought it WELL used, I might add). One of the better shops in the NY
> >>area could not get a lower slide tube. The repairman even showed me the
> >>Allied catalog.  Not listed-
> >>
> >>This was about four years ago, BTW.   Maybe things have changed?  That
> >>.522
> >>is an odd size; most of the other horns in that general size are .525.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave and Pam Sherman wrote:
> >>
> >>The latest allied catalog lists the Artist Model 78H.  Inside slide .526
> >>X .554.  It also lists the outer slide tube.  Was the 78H made in two
> >>different bore sizes .525 and .522?
> >>
> >
> >
> > Dave's right.  The brand new Allied catalog (No. 6-06) lists an inside
> > slide tube part #K608 as fitting the 78H.  It's actually a King part for
> > the 607F and the 3B+.  But below that on the slide chart is part
> > #C-65962-3 which is a Conn 50H part that has the same dimensions and is
> > 1/2 inch longer (28-3/4").  I think I'd use the Conn 50H part because I
> > remember the old 78Hs as having very long slides on them.
> >
> > All the old catalogs used to list the 50H and the 78H/79H as .522"
> > bore.  Some years back, after the 78H was discontinued, the 50H suddenly
> > appeared as a .525" bore in the catalogs.  The horn didn't change.  I
> > think it was a marketing decision to help sell the horn.  It was
> > competing with Bach and Yamaha horns that were .525" and Conn didn't
> > want to loose sales over .003" in bore.  All bore sizes seem to be
> > approximate anyway, and open to interpretation.  Allied measured the
> > bores, I guess, and lists different bores for a lot of our favorite
horns.
> >
> > A few examples:
> >
> > 2B:  .480/.489  instead of .481/.491
> > 6H:  .501 instead of .500
> > 3B:  .509 instead of .508
> > Bach 36:  .530 instead of .525
> > Bach 42B:  .545 instead of .547
> > 88H:  .545 instead of .547
> > King 4B:  .550 instead of .547
> > Bach 50B:  .560 instead of .562
> >
> > So you might want to measure the O.D. of the stocking on the 78H to be
> > sure, but either of those parts should fit according to Allied.  You
> > might want to measure the length too.  They might be a little short for
> > a bottom tube, but still useable and better than nothing.
> >
> > Eric Swanson
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