[Trombone-l] Old words for trombone. Was Re: Of new trombonequintets

John Burton John.Burton at JohnBurton.org
Fri May 5 09:35:01 CDT 2006


In following this thread, I'm puzzled in one thing.
 
"Big Trumpet"....  ehrm... would that LOOK like a  modern-day "Big Bugle"??  Surely you're not referring to a valved instrument...
 
But then, I don't believe in valves, rotors yes, slide -- definitely!
 
 
 
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john burton 
Bach 50B3 
Bass Trombone, Charleston NeoPhonic Orchestra 
South Charleston, West Virginia 

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Subject: [Trombone-l] Old words for trombone. Was Re: Of new trombonequintets

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Adding to the confusion is that there is an Aramaic word, used four times in the book of Daniel, sambecca, I think (someone with a concordance within reach can look it up) that looks very much like sackbut. The translators of the King  James Bible knew ancient languages much better than they knew musical history and picked the wrong word. French translators must have made a similar mistake. Luther, of course, frequently used "Posaune" where the King James uses "trumpet". That word, being much older than the trombone, can refer to various forms of Medieval trumpets as well as to the trombone. The fact that the trombone is not an ancient instrument dating back to biblical times has been known for only a little over a hundred years.

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David Guion

The early bird may get the worm,
but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese!


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