[Trombone-l] Fixing your own horn

[Jeff Albert]

Eric,

That's not what Jason said.  read it again.  He said if you want to  
learn how to do this, you should hang out with a repairman and  
learn.  isn't that how you guys learn those skills?

Jeff


On May 4, 2006, at 12:25 PM, Eric Edwards wrote:

> Great.
> Another smart-ass know-it-all that thinks anyone can be a repairman.
>
> Sure,  buy a bunch of tools and you're a repairman!
>
> Why don't I just buy a bunch of scalpels and hemostats and I can be  
> a brain
> surgeon!
>
> Give it a rest!
>
> Eric
>
> Eric, Leandra, Sara, Jared & Lily
> Edwards
> "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of  
> low
> price has faded"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trombone-l-bounces at server5.samford.edu
> [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at server5.samford.edu]On Behalf Of Jason  
> Smith
> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:10 PM
> To: Daniel Pliskin; bone list
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fixing your own horn
>
>
> I think that fixing your own horn is a great
> idea.(insert tongue in cheek and laugh uncontrolably).
>  I have seen more instruments almost destroyed by
> (daddys) with vice grips or a screwdriver and too much
> ambition.  However,  there is no reason why any person
> could not be trained in the art of instrument repair.
> I would suggest to anybody that before you go out and
> buy a dent roller and a hammer to befriend your local
> or semi local repair person.  Offer to work in shop
> for summer repair season.  Watch the brass guys repair
> school horns.  Then if you are confident you can buy
> the tools needed to complete work and do a good job.
> Who knows maybe there is an opportunity for a side job
> to supplement income to pay for the rising cost of
> gasoline.
>
> Jason
>
> --- Daniel Pliskin <daniel_pliskin at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>>     Anyone able and willing to chat with me about
>> the feasibility of this?
>>>  There are plenty of damaged horns at the places I
>> teach that I could
>>> practice with, so my horn wouldn't have to be my
>> maiden voyage.
>>
>> There are various degrees of "fixing" a trombone.
>> It's very difficult to
>> get a trombone cherried out.  It's not that
>> difficult to push out a dent, to
>> the point where it looks OK, if you don't study it
>> too carefully.
>>
>> The one thing you do have to be careful about,
>> though, is making sure that
>> you don't do something that can't be made beautiful,
>> later, by a qualified
>> repair person.  Perhaps the biggest damage you could
>> create is to generate
>> or accentuate a crease.
>>
>> OK, the disclaimer is finished, let's go.
>>
>> Get a smooth steel rod, about 5/8 inch in diameter
>> and two feet long.  With
>> a grinder, round off the end, so that it's more like
>> half a ball.  Then
>> polish that ball end, so that it's quite smooth.
>>
>> Now, take that rod and hold it firmly in a vise, so
>> that it's horizontal.
>> V-shaped jaws help a lot.
>>
>> Hold the bell firmly in both hands with the rod
>> sticking into the bell.
>> Starting gently, rub the inside of the bell across
>> the cylindrical part of
>> the rod.  But also pay attention to where the rest
>> of the bell is.  It's way
>> too easy to dent another part of the bell, while
>> you're concentrating on the
>> first dent.
>>
>> I started you out rubbing the bell against the rod
>> very gently, because
>> trombones are very easy to bend.  And if you didn't
>> get any results that
>> would be better than if you pushed too hard and put
>> a new crease right next
>> to the old dent.  If you are getting results, keep
>> doing what you're doing,
>> until the dent is smoothed out.  If it's not working
>> for you, try pushing a
>> bit harder, as you rub the bell against the rod.
>>
>> And if you've been holding your mouth just so, the
>> trombone will be
>> restored, perfectly.
>>
>> DanP
>>
>>
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