[Trombone-l] Different trombones and different mpces...

[Phil Brink]

That's as may be - I got used to the Elliott 166 setup a long time ago and 
have continued to experiment with bass rims. I used the Laskey 95D [about 
1.20"] for a long time [and that is very close to the 116 {1.16"}]. When I 
tried out the Schilke last December the universal opinion of other players 
was that the Schilke sounded better, so I switched... maybe some day I will 
change my tenor setup, but I don't play tenor that much so...

Phil Brink

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gabriel Langfur" <glangfur at yahoo.com>
To: <Trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Different trombones and different mpces...


> Hmmm...by my reckoning, both Doug and Phil are playing
> larger inner diameter rims on tenor than on bass. Does the
> Elliott 116 really feel that close to the D6.0?
>
> I play a Laskey 93D on bass, 95D on the weird G contrabass
> I put together for the Varese Integrales, a Doug Elliott
> hybrid for large tenor - 112W rim, G or I cup, and Floyd
> Cooley Helleberg (similar to Conn Helleberg 7B) for tuba.
>
> I have a much easier time than I used to switching rims for
> different horns, but I need to keep it pretty close to my
> full-time piece.
>
> Gabe
>
> --- Doug Rowe <darowe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have  very similar setup to Phil:
>>
>> Schilke D6.0 on Edwards bass
>> Doug Elliott 116M rim on a LB I cup w/an I 8 shank on a
>> Conn 88h
>> (.547/.562 slide)
>> Doug Elliott 116M rim on a LB E cup w/an E 3 shank on a
>> King 3B.
>>
>> I primarily play bass.  The smaller horns are a little
>> squirrelly when I
>> pick them up right after playing bass--but my chops are
>> such that,
>> seemingly no matter how much I practice, switching rims
>> is very
>> disagreeable.  Kiss my sound good bye kind of thing.
>> This wouldn't be
>> ideal for playing lead, or even principle in an
>> orchestra--but I'm happy
>> sticking with bass and 2nd parts.
>>
>> d.
>>
>> Phil Brink wrote:
>> > I don't know how common my "in-bwtween" solution to
>> this is, but here goes:
>> >
>> > Schilke D6.0 on Edwards bass
>> > Doug Elliot hybrid, with 116W rim on a cup
>> approximately of 5G or 4G
>> > size[Elliot G cup]; large backbore. Works for me, but
>> probably not for
>> > anyone else. Bass is my primary axe.
>> >
>> > Phil Brink
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Alby Tbone" <alby_t-bone at libero.it>
>> > To: <Trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:48 PM
>> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Different trombones and different
>> mpces...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> I know there are lots of trombonists out there who are
>> switching from one
>> >> mouthpiece to another one when using different bores
>> trombones.
>> >> I also know a lot of people who prefer to use ALWAYS
>> the same rim/cup
>> >> sizes,
>> >> even when switching between large and small shank.
>> >>
>> >> Now here's the question:
>> >> how many of this GREAT trombone-l are of the switching
>> kind?
>> >> and how many are of the loyal type?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Just my interest.
>> >>
>> >> Greetings from Italy
>> >> Alby Tbone Borio
>> >>
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