[Trombone-l] musicianship question

[Wayne Dyess]

Exactly.  Initially, their reaction is one that sounds mechanical... 
but eventually they anticipate what you're about to tell them, and 
become MUSICIANS at some point.

Gotta love the light bulb effect.
WD



On Mar 2, 2006, at 8:57 AM, dslide13 at aol.com wrote:

> I like this.  You're basically walking them through every individual 
> element of sounding musical.  They're probably reacting to your 
> instructions in a mechanical way, but the hope is that they'll develop 
> a musical intuition that will eventually allow them to anticipate what 
> you would normally tell them.
>
>
> David Gibson
> trombonist/educator
> www.jazzbone.org
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Dyess <TexasTbone at gt.rr.com>
> To: Jay Sheridan <jsheridan at usv.k12.oh.us>
> Cc: trombone-l at samford.edu
> Sent: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 22:57:34 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] musicianship question
>
>  I have found that most school groups need some direction to sound
> musical.  I have them write in little things that are not in the
> printed music.  Hairpins, accents, dynamic contrasts... contouring a
> line to follow the melodic content.
>
> There is great book that was published by Vandercook simply called
> "Expression" that lays out a pretty good plan for teaching
> musicianship.  I don't know if it is still in print, but it sure helped
> me when I was first teaching (in those days, jr. high band).  The ideas
> I learned from that have carried me through my now 30th year of
> teaching at the college level... and I still use many of the techniques
> presented in the Vandercook paperback.  Terrific book.
>
> Dynamics are given numbers.... 1 the softest... 10 the loudest.  A jr.
> high band might only get 4 to 7 or 8 with good taste and tone quality.
> A high school band should be able to go from 2 to 9.  College, the full
> range hopefully.  That was but one of the techniques used to teach
> musicianship.
>
> Fun topic.
> Good luck!
> Wayne Dyess
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2006, at 1:34 PM, Jay Sheridan wrote:
>
>> For all those that do any teaching, how do you teach a student (or
>> group- band/orch etc) to play musically? I have tried several
>> different ways, but none seem to be working. I have a group that can
>> perform rhythmically and in tune, but is lacking musically. The group
>> in question is actually a choir, but I usually think in trombone
> terms
>> when talking to them anyways.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jay Sheridan
>> Director of Music
>> Upper Scioto Valley Local School
>> McGuffey, OH
>> jsheridan at usv.k12.oh.us
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