[Trombone-l] End of the Music world is coming

Fri Jul 21 16:45:42 CDT 2006

Guys,
This is one reason I've found myself moving over to yamaha. (I do have one 
edwards too.) I've had several really mediocre bachs, although the older 
ones I've owned were better.  The yamaha's I've bought were really well 
assembled with
everything fitting properly and though I've had to make tuning adjustments 
cause the partials line up better
I've been happy.  They seem to be more consistent and I didn't have to play 
4 or 5 to get a good one.
Seriously considering moving in that direction with my bass trombone as 
well.  I played one
recently and it's just easier to make what I (as a mainly tenor player) need 
to happen.

Barry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Kemp" <trbnplyr at bellsouth.net>
To: "'bone list'" <trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] End of the Music world is coming

> Jason,
> I disagree.
> As a private music teacher, I've seen the declining quality of
> musical instruments over the past 15 years. By exporting this commodity 
> over
> to China, it's going to continue to get worse. Right now, it's the student
> horns. Later on, it will more than likely be the professional models.
> Even if it has to be unsoldered and reassembled by a quality
> craftsman, I'll take the horn 30 years old over a new one any day. They 
> were
> made out of better stuff back then, and were actually made with the idea
> that the horn could be rebuilt 2-3 times if reasonably taken care of. 
> Trash
> a newer one, and you'll end up buying another new one.
> It still matters what comes out of the bell, after the beauty of the
> cosmetic finish wears off. The sound will be compromised if the initial
> quality of the parts is poor.
>
> Paul Kemp
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu
> [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu] On Behalf Of Jason Smith
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 4:55 PM
> To: thetubameister at adelphia.net; bone list
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] End of the Music world is coming
>
> I dont know that the more  demanding "professionals"
> will suffer from the low quality but it could effect
> the next generations of instrumentalist coming through
> school now.
>
> --- thetubameister at adelphia.net wrote:
>
>> Low wages in an isolated economy don't necessarily
>> mean poor quality.  It is poor training at a
>> start-up assembly with crud materials that does
>> that.  I'm sure there are poor artists who make
>> quality stuff - it's just not as profitable for a US
>> company to pay for that over the even cheeper stuff.
>>
>> As to Nixon, well, we're just gonna have to adapt -
>> we can't undo without damaging the people more than
>> the government.  Only the people there can change
>> their government and thereby bring their economy
>> into balance with the rest of the world.
>>
>> J.c.S.
>> ---- Paul Kemp <trbnplyr at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> > Walmart and Target have definitely made a dent in
>> the musical retail
>> > business, and they way that they have done it is
>> several fold:
>> >
>> > 1) Walmart does 12 billion dollars of business a
>> year with Communist China.
>> > Results:
>> >
>> > Products that used to be made in the U.S. can be
>> produced in China for a
>> > fraction of the price because the average wage of
>> the Chinese worker is 61
>> > cents an hour.
>> >
>> > As a result, quality control goes down the drain.
>> >
>> > Incidentally, that is EXACTLY what the strike in
>> Elkhart at the Conn-Selmer
>> > factory is all about. They thought that they could
>> save a bunch of money by
>> > having the Chinese make the student line
>> instruments. When the first order
>> > was completed, shipped back here and inspected, it
>> was little more than
>> > SCRAP. Conn-Selmer unloaded the entire shipment on
>> Taylor Music in South
>> > Dakota at a tremendous loss.
>> >
>> > How quickly we forget how badly Communism affected
>> Russia. Richard Nixon
>> > sold us down the river in 1972 in having dealings
>> with China. There is a
>> > conspiracy for a one world government, and it is
>> happening right underneath
>> > our noses, and little we can do to stop it.
>> >
>> > Paul Kemp
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu
>> > [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu]
>> On Behalf Of Jason Smith
>> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 2:04 PM
>> > To: bone list
>> > Subject: [Trombone-l] End of the Music world is
>> coming
>> >
>> > I don't know if anybody else is aware of this
>> story or
>> > if anybody really cares.  Their demise can be
>> > attributed to the earlier jury settlement.  Word
>> of
>> > caution, be cautious about what you say about
>> > instruments brands and quality it could come back
>> and
>> > bite you big brother is watching.
>> >
>> > Jason
>> > oops! forgot the link.
>> >
>>
> http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/071506dnbusbrookmays
>> > .179db4b.html
>> >
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