[Trombone-l] End of the Music world is coming

Jason Smith jbone72 at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 21 16:24:49 CDT 2006


I dont think we disagree that much.  I think what I am
saying is the a true professional will not put up with
poor quality they will invest to fix an older
instrument of good quality.  Take for example
saxophones.  Selmer has been messing around with their
saxophones for 30 years or more.  Have you seen what a
MARK VI is going for on ebay now adays.  There paying
outrageous prices for a Used instrument that is 30
plus years old.   

P.s. after the beauty of the cosmetic finish wears
off. The sound will be compromised if the initial
quality of the parts is poor.  That is a Good Quote I
can use that.


 

--- Paul Kemp <trbnplyr at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Jason,
> 	I disagree.
> 	As a private music teacher, I've seen the declining
> quality of
> musical instruments over the past 15 years. By
> exporting this commodity over
> to China, it's going to continue to get worse. Right
> now, it's the student
> horns. Later on, it will more than likely be the
> professional models. 
> 	Even if it has to be unsoldered and reassembled by
> a quality
> craftsman, I'll take the horn 30 years old over a
> new one any day. They were
> made out of better stuff back then, and were
> actually made with the idea
> that the horn could be rebuilt 2-3 times if
> reasonably taken care of. Trash
> a newer one, and you'll end up buying another new
> one.
> 	It still matters what comes out of the bell, after
> the beauty of the
> cosmetic finish wears off. The sound will be
> compromised if the initial
> quality of the parts is poor.
> 
> Paul Kemp 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 	 
> 	 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu
> [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu] On
> Behalf Of Jason Smith
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 4:55 PM
> To: thetubameister at adelphia.net; bone list
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] End of the Music world is
> coming
> 
> I dont know that the more  demanding "professionals"
> will suffer from the low quality but it could effect
> the next generations of instrumentalist coming
> through
> school now. 
> 
> --- thetubameister at adelphia.net wrote:
> 
> > Low wages in an isolated economy don't necessarily
> > mean poor quality.  It is poor training at a
> > start-up assembly with crud materials that does
> > that.  I'm sure there are poor artists who make
> > quality stuff - it's just not as profitable for a
> US
> > company to pay for that over the even cheeper
> stuff.
> > 
> > As to Nixon, well, we're just gonna have to adapt
> -
> > we can't undo without damaging the people more
> than
> > the government.  Only the people there can change
> > their government and thereby bring their economy
> > into balance with the rest of the world.
> > 
> > J.c.S.
> > ---- Paul Kemp <trbnplyr at bellsouth.net> wrote: 
> > > Walmart and Target have definitely made a dent
> in
> > the musical retail
> > > business, and they way that they have done it is
> > several fold:
> > > 
> > > 1) Walmart does 12 billion dollars of business a
> > year with Communist China.
> > > Results: 
> > > 
> > > Products that used to be made in the U.S. can be
> > produced in China for a
> > > fraction of the price because the average wage
> of
> > the Chinese worker is 61
> > > cents an hour.
> > > 
> > > As a result, quality control goes down the
> drain.
> > > 
> > > Incidentally, that is EXACTLY what the strike in
> > Elkhart at the Conn-Selmer
> > > factory is all about. They thought that they
> could
> > save a bunch of money by
> > > having the Chinese make the student line
> > instruments. When the first order
> > > was completed, shipped back here and inspected,
> it
> > was little more than
> > > SCRAP. Conn-Selmer unloaded the entire shipment
> on
> > Taylor Music in South
> > > Dakota at a tremendous loss.
> > > 
> > > How quickly we forget how badly Communism
> affected
> > Russia. Richard Nixon
> > > sold us down the river in 1972 in having
> dealings
> > with China. There is a
> > > conspiracy for a one world government, and it is
> > happening right underneath
> > > our noses, and little we can do to stop it.
> > > 
> > > Paul Kemp  
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu
> > >
> [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at maillists.samford.edu]
> > On Behalf Of Jason Smith
> > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 2:04 PM
> > > To: bone list
> > > Subject: [Trombone-l] End of the Music world is
> > coming
> > > 
> > > I don't know if anybody else is aware of this
> > story or
> > > if anybody really cares.  Their demise can be
> > > attributed to the earlier jury settlement.  Word
> > of
> > > caution, be cautious about what you say about
> > > instruments brands and quality it could come
> back
> > and
> > > bite you big brother is watching.
> > > 
> > > Jason
> > > oops! forgot the link.
> > >
> >
>
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/071506dnbusbrookmays
> > > .179db4b.html
> > > 
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