[Trombone-l] Leaving a horn on its stand

Mon Jul 3 22:02:20 CDT 2006

Thanks for asking, David. I was wrong on the club. It was actually Snookie's
in New York City and the date was January 6, 1953. There were a couple of
comedians who were playing the club at the time - Stump 'n Stumpy - who were
invited to the party. Stump, who's real name was James Cross, was accused of
knocking the horn. In "To Be Or Not To Bop", Diz's memoir, Stump states that
he leaned on the horn. Others who were at the party, said that Stump was too
drunk to remember anything but accepted the blame.

There is a chapter in Diz's called "Bendin' the Horn" which tells the story
in detail.

Stan
Stan Brager
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> I played with Moody and the Dizzy Alumni last week at the Blue Note.
> Moody told the story and then introduced the guy that was responsible.
> I believe he's a dancer.  Do you know who it was?
>
> David Gibson
> trombonist/educator
> www.jazzbone.org
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Brager <sbrager at socal.rr.com>
> To: Tom Izzo <contrabasstrombone at yahoo.com>; Steve Carr
> <stevencarr at comcast.net>; trombone-l at server5.samford.edu
> Sent: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 12:43:39 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Leaving a horn on its stand
>
>    On the positive side of leaving a horn on the stage, is the story of
> Dizzy
> Gillespie. He was playing at Birdland and had rented the place for an
> after-hours birthday party for his wife Lorraine. During the evening,
> Diz
> had to return home to do something. When he returned, he found that
> somehow
> the stand had been knocked down and the bell had been bent. It played
> OK and
> later determined that he liked the sound better with the bent bell. His
> subsequent trumpets were all manufactured with the bell pointed upwards
> at a
> 45 degree angle.
>
> Has any trombonist ever tried this approach? On purpose or on accident?
>
> Stan
> Stan Brager
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Izzo" <contrabasstrombone at yahoo.com>
> To: "Steve Carr" <stevencarr at comcast.net>;
> <trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 8:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Leaving a horn on its stand
>
>
> >
> >
> > --- Steve Carr <stevencarr at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > do you have one for Tom Izzo?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > hahahahahahahahahaha Thanks Steve,
> > Though I will freely admit, I do own a
> > "multi"-Trombone stand (holds 7 Trombones), & is
> > secure enough that even if only 1 Trombone as large as
> > a Contra is on the stand it will not topple, & it
> > still folds up.
> > But I do have to watch it when used in public as the
> > too-curious onlookers like to get too close to "see
> > how it works".
> >
> > But seriously, as a multi instrumentalist full time,
> > there are always at least 5-6 instruments on stands in
> > my house 24 hours a day.
> >
> > Back to the original poster's question, I agree with
> > Eric; you're going to leave one instrument on a stand
> > for longer than a couple of hours, esp in the warmer
> > months, put a rag/towel/cloth/etc on the stand
> > particularly if you have a softer support top.
> >
> > YMMV.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Richard E. Onofrey, Jr., CLU, ChFC, CFP"
> > > <REOnofreyJ at comcast.net>
> > > To: <trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:11 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Leaving a horn on its
> > > stand
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I was also concerned about this, so I figured a
> > > solution to the problem.
> > > >
> > > > I have 3 trombones and a trombonium, and my wife
> > > was always concerned
> > > about
> > > > the number of cases and horns lying around (not to
> > > mention music, mutes,
> > > > stands, etc.).
> > > >
> > > > So I had a cabinet made for the storage of the
> > > horns.  The cabinet is
> > > about
> > > > 6 feet tall, 2.5 feet deep and about 3 feet wide.
> > > On one side of the
> > > > cabinet is a space large enough to store all three
> > > horns, and a music
> > > stand,
> > > > standing up.  Above that are shelves for the
> > > storage of music, mutes, etc.
> > > >
> > > > The other side of the cabinet has a permanently
> > > mounted trombone stand,
> > > with
> > > > enough room to put a trombone in and take it out.
> > > This setup guarantees
> > > > that the horn will be protected at all times - the
> > > stand cannot fall over.
> > > >
> > > > Finally, there was enough space at the top to put
> > > a shelf across the whole
> > > > cabinet for storage of my trombonium.
> > > >
> > > > It's a pretty neat piece of furniture!
> > > >
> > > > If anyone would like pictures, let me know.
> > > >
> > > > -Rick Onofrey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nick Mahon wrote:
> > > > > Now that it's summer and the horn usually stays
> > > in the practice room,
> > > > > I'm wondering if there would be negative effects
> > > to leaving it on a
> > > > > stand rather than putting it in the case every
> > > night.  I use it
> > > > > several times a day it it would be more
> > > convenient to leave it set up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nick Mahon
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