[Trombone-l] Beethoven's Fifth and Koncert fur Violine

Howard Weiner h.weiner at online.de
Sat Dec 23 03:40:42 CST 2006


At 11:25 22.12.2006 -0800, Frank Darmiento wrote:
>Mark -
>Regarding the violin concerto, I'm not familiar with
>it.  Are you sure you're not looking at trumpet
>(Tromba) parts?  The treble clef and the transposition
>you mention sound suspiciously like trumpet parts.

Yes, it definitely sounds like somebody gave you the trumpet parts. 
There are no trombones in the violin concerto.


>As far as the fifth symphony goes, if you can't make
>the high E & F just play them an octave lower and no
>one will be any the wiser.  They're nice up high if
>you have the range (and a nice light alto sound), but
>they're in an ensemble part so the lower octave will
>work fine.

I can't get to my score of the 5th right now, but...
No. the lower octave will NOT work fine. If I remember correctly, the 
first trombone is the only instrument playing that high f. In any 
case, the high f is very prominent - and it would be even more 
prominent by its absence.

I would suggest trading notes with the 2nd trumpet, who has a c but 
can easily play the f - back in Beethoven's day this wasn't the case: 
the natural trumpet in use at that time did not have a reliable f, 
but a tone somewhere between f and f-sharp.

You can probably figure out a similar trade for the high e. (You may 
have to ask the conductor to authorize these changes.)

Howard


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