[Trombone-l] Bb Bass Clef (was alto trombone question)

[Raymond Horton]

Al MacDonald wrote:
> Raymond Horton wrote:
>
> RH> Trombone parts have never been transposed (other than British Brass Band 
> RH> and this new, rumored, "World Music" bass clef in Bb thing that is 
> RH> springing up).
>
> The Pines of Rome offstage brass parts (flicorni) are in Bb bass clef.
> They should be played by conical brass for contrast with the onstage
> brass, but frequently trombones are used.  I believe that real
> tenor, baritone, and bass flicorni read Bb bass clef, although it
> would be good if someone could confirm that.
>
> And I've seen Bb bass clef elsewhere.  It's pretty rare, and makes no
> sense.  I suspect that some composers and arrangers "know" that the
> trombone is a Bb instrument and reads bass clef, so write the parts
> that way.
>
> Al MacDonald
>
>   
We had a thread recently about Bb bass clef parts showing up in band 
music for "world music" or something - supposedly they are used in some 
countries. 

Nobody is really sure just what those Pines parts where written for - 
special instruments that Resphighi had made. 

( I have to say that I traveled on the Appian Way six weeks ago - pretty 
cool!)

Hmm, there is a concert pitch Pines parts available somewhere on line, I 
think maybe from the AFM libriarians site, but I can't find it now...