[Trombone-l] 697z...was YSL-691

[Jeff Adams]

Hey Alex and All,

Apologies, I should have clarified.  The three 697Z's I tried 19  
months ago all had very close tolerances between the inner and outer  
slides which was completely different than any other pro model yamaha  
slide I'd ever played (which were never tight, were generally perfect  
and also very fast right out of the box.)  I was one of Yamaha's  
artists for 6 years prior to leaving them over the lack of focus in  
the small and small/medium bore horn department.  At that time it  
felt to me like the 697z's outer slides would need an immediate  
polishing inside the outer tubes, but I was leery that it still might  
not solve the problem.  From what Alex mentioned, it sounds like they  
have solved that issue since then--I hope so since I'm sure 697 sales  
were off from projections when I decided to leave Yamaha in June of '05.

Best Regards!

Jeff Adams
www.SlideAdams.com
A Kanstul Artist/Clinician
www.Kanstul.com

On Dec 4, 2006, at 2:22 PM, ALEX ILES wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I recently had access to try out about a dozen or so newer and  
> proto-type Yamaha trombones. I was very impressed with all 697Z's I  
> tried.
>
> Sounds like Yamaha putting a lot of effort into their tenor  
> trombones these days after several years of totally re-thinking  
> their trumpet designs--with great success. The US Yamaha folks have  
> also been circulating a couple proto-type horns for feedback that  
> really play [including two re-designed 691's]. Many of the pros I  
> have spoken with seem to like them too. I think they are on a good  
> track and it is nice to hear them taking the small/medium small  
> bore market seriously again.
>
> Andy Martin has recently settled on a 697Z [each of the horns they  
> sent out to him to try--like 6 of them--had EXCELLENT slides].
>
> And he sounds great on it, by the way [like that should comes as a  
> big surprise or something....;-)]
>
> Best wishes,
>
> LX
> ================
> On Dec 4, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Jeff Adams wrote:
>
>> On Dec 4, 2006, at 1:00 PM, trombone-l-request at maillists.samford.edu
>> wrote:
>>> HI i'm looking at buying a ysl 691 off the internet
>>> has anyone tried one or know how well it plays? It has
>>> interchangble lead pipes.
>>> thanks ashton
>>
>> Ashton,
>>
>> Yes, spent nearly 6 years playing one in the Army's top touring jazz
>> band.  Yamaha slides are extremely good (except for the 697).  It was
>> great for me just playing 2nd & Jazz during that time.  An excellent
>> all around medium-small bore horn.  However it does tend to be more
>> quiet than others of the same bore.  My role changed in the band and
>> had to find a more suitable horn for what I have to do now.  While
>> you are searching I would recommend that you find one with the Oval-
>> shaped counterweight (as opposed to the round one).  These are
>> slightly older and the bells are slightly thinner solving the volume
>> issue--never could figure out why they went to a heavier bell.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Jeff Adams
>> www.SlideAdams.com
>> A Kanstul Artist/Clinician
>> www.Kanstul.com
>>
>>
>>
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