[Trombone-l] Fix for noisy Bach linkage?

[thetubameister@adelphia.net]

There's something to this.  I've owned so many old cars, that I've seen what regular preventative maintenance can do, and what ignoring it can do as well!  Plays in to many things - including relationships!

J.c.S.


---- Denny Seifried <ddsbstrb at woh.rr.com> wrote: 
> I always have two bottles of Hetman setting right in my office, for use on 
> my 4 bass bones and try to oil all of the valves, with Hetman spindle 
> bearing oil, I use this oil on all of the posts which go through the levers, 
> and the water key posts (don't forget this little job, as it will make the 
> life of your trombone repair tech much easier, when you need a water-key 
> cork replaced or a spring replaced).
> 
> I usually have to oil my student's valves, as preventative maintenance seems 
> pretty remote to their minds. Must be my automotive background, as to why I 
> try to keep things from wearing-out, from lack of lube!
> 
> Denny Seifried
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eric & Candice Swanson" <swan325 at earthlink.net>
> To: "trombone-list" <trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Fix for noisy Bach linkage?
> 
> 
> > Denny Seifried wrote:
> >
> >>Chris,
> >>
> >>Having the old linkage properly cleaned, lubricated and adjusted will help
> >>and will not cost very much, except for a bottle of Hetman Ball & Socket
> >>Lube. ....Adjust the ball and socket for smooth and
> >>quick movement, but don't get it so loose there is a lot of play in the 
> >>ball
> >>and socket. You are treading a fine-line with this adjustment
> >>
> >>A couple more suggestion for him:
> >>
> >>1. Be sure the bearing is not worn, as the rotor shaft could be slapping 
> >>or
> >>moving about in the bearing plate, as this will cause noise.
> >>
> >>2. Replace the cork or neoprene stops on the valve---they will harden with
> >>age and make a lot of noise when the stop arm smacks the stops.
> >>
> >>I am sure Eric Swanson will have better advice or correct any mistakes I
> >>might have stated in my suggestions.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Denny,
> >
> > You are right on pretty much everything.  I don't even use any fancy
> > grease, just thick axle grease.  The key is to pack the sockets with
> > grease.  You can't just smear some on the outside, you have to unscrew
> > stuff and get the grease inside.  If you can't figure out how to do
> > that, then have somebody show you how.  Then tighten up everything as
> > tight as you can and have it still work right.  Replace the valve corks
> > about once a year (not every 10-20 years like most people) and oil the
> > damn valve.  Whatever happened to oiling valves?  Lately every valve I
> > see looks like it's never been oiled.
> >
> > Eric Swanson
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