[Trombone-l] Ashley Alexander (now TR-181 gone)

Mon Aug 14 09:29:10 CDT 2006

The Jupiter 740 bass bone isn't a copy of something--it does feature  
attributes from several models. the horns, which certainly had some  
issues in the beginning,  have improved greatly since their  
introduction both in durability and in design features. While they  
don't yet claim to be creating professional grade instruments, this  
horn plays quite well and is certainly a few K cheaper than some  
other options. It is quite suitable for most all situations--it  
doesn't play like an Edwards, but it's certainly loads cheaper.
scott
On Aug 13, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Jason Smith wrote:

> Up until just recently I played on the blessing B-88O
> I agree that it is no pro horn for the price I think
> they are excelent instrument for school students and
> for those like me who just enjoy playing and dont
> depend on an instrument for their livelyhood.  Have
> the Jupiter instruments change much in resent years.
> I had one in HS and it was in my opinion and absolute
> dog.  Maybe they have changed.  I think I will go
> practice my Bach or King and shutup now
>
> Jason
>
> p.s.  We have another radio show of band music next
> Sat. at 5:00pm.  You can listen online on www.knct.org
> that's 5:00 central time zone for you
> international(outside texas) listeners lol
>
>
>
> --- Chris Waage <chris.waage at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Blessing instruments are great for their target
>> market - beginners
>> and intermediate players.  The B88 is an exact copy
>> of the Conn 88H,
>> and will sometimes actually play better than Abilene
>> Conns.  I've
>> played a few of their bass trombones, which are a
>> copy of a
>> closed-wrap Bach 50B3 - which I don't think is still
>> in production -
>> and they were ok, although stuffy.
>>
>> The quality is good, but they're definitely not a
>> pro-line instrument.
>>
>> Disclaimer:  I haven't played anything from Blessing
>> within the past
>> year or so, and they may have introduced some new
>> instruments that are
>> geared towards the pros.  I just haven't seen them.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 8/13/06, Jason Smith <jbone72 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> You mention some brands of trombones but you left
>> out
>>> the Blessings any thoughts about those (just
>> curious)
>>>
>>> --- David OLIVER <dcoliver at msn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now that's interesting! I just hit the Woodwind
>> and
>>>> the Brasswind
>>>> website. They had been carrying the TR-181
>>>> constantly since I
>>>> returned to playing again a bit over 9 years
>> ago.
>>>> When I took the
>>>> bass trombone plunge my first one was my 1980's
>>>> TR-181, which I
>>>> still have. I've pretty gone to my '70 Conn 73H
>>>> (modified by Eric
>>>> Edwards for Gb tuning - like the TR-181) full
>> time
>>>> but don't plan on
>>>> selling my TR-181 anytime soon. It seems to play
>>>> better than the
>>>> more recent ones did. People have commented to
>> me
>>>> that the
>>>> rose brass looks to be a different shade for one
>>>> thing.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, the TR-181 is gone from the WW & BW
>> site.
>>>> Only two
>>>> Holton models are left, the TR-183 single valve
>>>> bass, and the
>>>> TR602F medium bore F-attach. That is it. It
>> looks
>>>> like the Holton
>>>> trombone line is dying a slow death with all the
>>>> lines being one big
>>>> company now. It's essentially Conn-Selmer vs.
>> Yamaha
>>>> with Jupiter
>>>> nipping at their heels and Chinese brands below
>>>> that.
>>>> It is sort like when baseball or football
>> players
>>>> retire isn't it? It's all
>>>> very quiet. One day they are just gone.
>>>>
>>>> We saw the same thing happen when the King line
>>>> became the
>>>> small bore UMI line at the expense of the Conn
>> small
>>>> bore models.
>>>> Conn's line became the symphonic/large bore
>> line. GM
>>>> did the same
>>>> thing with the different car models, aiming them
>> at
>>>> a different
>>>> consumer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David Oliver
>>>> Broomfield, Colorado  USA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: "Joe Norcross" <joetuba at lightspeed.net>
>>>>> Reply-To: joetuba at lightspeed.net
>>>>> To: "Adrian Drover" <slide at adios.co.uk>,
>> "George
>>>> Carr"
>>>>> <georgecarr at gmail.com>
>>>>> CC: Mike Irwin <theimpalakid at gmail.com>,
>>>> trombone-l at server5.samford.edu
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Ashley Alexander
>> question
>>>>> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:45:54 -0700
>>>>>
>>>>> Just checked the Holton web sight, the
>> superbone is
>>>> there, but the 181
>>>>> double rotor bass is not. better keep ours
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Norcross
>>>>> Tuba COS Sequoia Winds, Visalia CA
>>>>> Tuba-Announcer Kingsburg City Band
>>>>> joetuba at lightspeed.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> [Original Message]
>>>>>> From: Adrian Drover <slide at adios.co.uk>
>>>>>> To: George Carr <georgecarr at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Cc: Mike Irwin <theimpalakid at gmail.com>;
>>>>> <trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
>>>>>> Date: 8/11/2006 1:30:38 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Ashley Alexander
>>>> question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: George Carr
>>>> [mailto:georgecarr at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is it not easier to play the valves on
>> the
>>>> left and slide on the
>>>>> right a
>>>>>>>> la the Holton Superbone?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps others can chime in on this, but I
>>>> heard that he was
>>>>>>> originally left-handed, a la Slide
>> Hampton, so
>>>> that he preferred "his"
>>>>>>> model of horn over the Superbone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Come to think of it, is the superbone
>>>> reversible?  I think it probably
>>>>> is.
>>>>>> Who has one?  Do they still make it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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