[Trombone-l] Ashley Alexander (now TR-181 gone)

Sun Aug 13 23:18:43 CDT 2006

WWBW has slipped a bit as to my opinion of them regarding stock (not to mention their paypal link).

They sold an aquaintance a "used" B stock Besson Euphonium.  On closer inspection (since the valves weren't perfect) it was for the discount of $500.00 the aquaintance received a (probably factory) overhauled instrument.  Get real!  I've since learned that Besson is chapter 11, and not selling stock in the US.

Just because they list an item, doesn't mean they have it.

J.c.S.

P.S.  One of the best Overhauls I've seen, though!
---- Jason Smith <jbone72 at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> You mention some brands of trombones but you left out
> the Blessings any thoughts about those (just curious)
> 
> --- David OLIVER <dcoliver at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> > Now that's interesting! I just hit the Woodwind and
> > the Brasswind
> > website. They had been carrying the TR-181
> > constantly since I
> > returned to playing again a bit over 9 years ago.
> > When I took the
> > bass trombone plunge my first one was my 1980's
> > TR-181, which I
> > still have. I've pretty gone to my '70 Conn 73H
> > (modified by Eric
> > Edwards for Gb tuning - like the TR-181) full time
> > but don't plan on
> > selling my TR-181 anytime soon. It seems to play
> > better than the
> > more recent ones did. People have commented to me
> > that the
> > rose brass looks to be a different shade for one
> > thing.
> > 
> > Anyway, the TR-181 is gone from the WW & BW site.
> > Only two
> > Holton models are left, the TR-183 single valve
> > bass, and the
> > TR602F medium bore F-attach. That is it. It looks
> > like the Holton
> > trombone line is dying a slow death with all the
> > lines being one big
> > company now. It's essentially Conn-Selmer vs. Yamaha
> > with Jupiter
> > nipping at their heels and Chinese brands below
> > that.
> > It is sort like when baseball or football players
> > retire isn't it? It's all
> > very quiet. One day they are just gone.
> > 
> > We saw the same thing happen when the King line
> > became the
> > small bore UMI line at the expense of the Conn small
> > bore models.
> > Conn's line became the symphonic/large bore line. GM
> > did the same
> > thing with the different car models, aiming them at
> > a different
> > consumer.
> > 
> > 
> > David Oliver
> > Broomfield, Colorado  USA
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >From: "Joe Norcross" <joetuba at lightspeed.net>
> > >Reply-To: joetuba at lightspeed.net
> > >To: "Adrian Drover" <slide at adios.co.uk>, "George
> > Carr" 
> > ><georgecarr at gmail.com>
> > >CC: Mike Irwin <theimpalakid at gmail.com>,
> > trombone-l at server5.samford.edu
> > >Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Ashley Alexander question
> > >Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:45:54 -0700
> > >
> > >Just checked the Holton web sight, the superbone is
> > there, but the 181
> > >double rotor bass is not. better keep ours
> > >
> > >Joe Norcross
> > >Tuba COS Sequoia Winds, Visalia CA
> > >Tuba-Announcer Kingsburg City Band
> > >joetuba at lightspeed.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Adrian Drover <slide at adios.co.uk>
> > > > To: George Carr <georgecarr at gmail.com>
> > > > Cc: Mike Irwin <theimpalakid at gmail.com>; 
> > ><trombone-l at server5.samford.edu>
> > > > Date: 8/11/2006 1:30:38 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Ashley Alexander
> > question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > From: George Carr
> > [mailto:georgecarr at gmail.com]
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is it not easier to play the valves on the
> > left and slide on the
> > >right a
> > > > > > la the Holton Superbone?
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps others can chime in on this, but I
> > heard that he was
> > > > > originally left-handed, a la Slide Hampton, so
> > that he preferred "his"
> > > > > model of horn over the Superbone.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Come to think of it, is the superbone
> > reversible?  I think it probably 
> > >is.
> > > > Who has one?  Do they still make it?
> > > >
> > > > A.
> > > >
> > > >
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