[Trombone-l] Blazhevich Clef Studies

[Tom Izzo]

Keith,


--- Keith Marr <Mail at gothicway.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Speaking of clef studies I was involved in a
> performance of Dave Brubeck's 
> cantata "The Gates of Justice" recently, on first.
> The first and second 
> parts both have passages in concert pitch treble
> clef.
> 
> Never come across that before although I understand
> that jazzers 
> occasionally write high passage in it to escape the
> usual telegraph poles of 
> ledger lines. It sticks in my head that Ravel uses
> it a coupla times too.

More than Jazzers, it appears in legit, too.
There's no reason EVER to change to Transposed Treble
Clef on the same part with concert pitch Bass Clef (or
concert pitch any other clef) for a Trombone part.
We're always reading C parts, no matter the clef, when
playing music written for Trombone.
When reading "Trombone Treble Clef", or "Bb Trombone"
parts in Brass Band or old Concert band materials
containing treble clef parts, you never see any
changes to concert pitch, either.
It's different, of course, for Trumpet parts, Horn
parts, (Clarinet, too), where you'll see parts for
Trumpet in D, Trumpet in C, Horn in A, Horn in E, etc,
because that practice started before the advent of
valves. We've always had our "tuning slide" in our
hands, there was no reason to change to a trombone of
different pitch to accomodate key changes.
When we play Alto Trombone in F, Eb, D, etc, or Tenor
Trombones in C, Bb (key of instrument, not the part),
A, Bass Trombones in Bb, G, F, etc, etc, in Alto Clef,
Treble Clef, Tenor Clef, Bass Clef, even in earlier
times: Soprano, Mezzo-Soprano, or Baritone Clefs, the
music is still in concert pitch: C is still C, Bb is
still Bb, we're reading concert pitch music regardless
of the clef or instrument (exceptions noted above for
TC Trombone parts in Bb--but they don't change on the
part).

Hope this helps.

Tom


> 
> I found it really easy to pick up if you're used to
> bass clef. My colleague, 
> however, was used to brass band treble clef and
> found it a bit of a trial.
> 
> A good piece incidentally if you get a chance to
> play or listen. According 
> to Schirmer, the publisher, we performed the
> European premiere. Yet it was 
> written about 30 years ago!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Keith in Bb/F/D
> Bass Trombone
> St Albans Symphony Orchestra
> Page Three Big Band 
> 
> 
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Tom Izzo
Principal Trombonist, Bristol Renaissance Faire;
Bass Trombonist, West Suburban Symphony Orchestra;
Founding Director, The Naperville Area Trombone Ensemble;
Alto/Tenor/Bass/Contrabass Trombones, Tubas, Euphonium, Bass Trumpet, Electric Bass, Timpani & Percussion.
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